Re: [gentoo-user] USB device (ATtiny86 w. mcronucleus bootloader) not recognized ?

On 08/07 11:29, Stefan Mark wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 19:04:09 -0500
> R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 11:50 AM,  <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
> > > When I plug in such a little board into my PC, demesg
> > > reports:
> > > [ 1429.834140] usb 7-4: new low-speed USB device number 15 using
> > > ohci-pci [ 1429.965142] usb 7-4: device descriptor read/64, error
> > > -62 [ 1430.203151] usb 7-4: device descriptor read/64, error -62
> > > [ 1430.438161] usb 7-4: new low-speed USB device number 16 using
> > > ohci-pci [ 1430.569151] usb 7-4: device descriptor read/64, error
> > > -62 [ 1430.803174] usb 7-4: device descriptor read/64, error -62
> > > [ 1431.038184] usb 7-4: new low-speed USB device number 17 using
> > > ohci-pci [ 1431.456157] usb 7-4: device not accepting address 17,
> > > error -62 [ 1431.582204] usb 7-4: new low-speed USB device number
> > > 18 using ohci-pci [ 1432.000209] usb 7-4: device not accepting
> > > address 18, error -62 [ 1432.000244] usb usb7-port4: unable to
> > > enumerate USB device
> >
> > >
> > > My first thought was: The micronucleus bootloaed is missing or
> > > is defective...
> > >
> > > But plugging in the board into my Android tablet (the tablet runs
> > > Lollipop and is nothing special at all beside being rooted) via
> > > an OTG cable and using lsusb after that, it shows
> > > Bus 001 Device 003 ID 16d0:0753 MCS Digistump DigiSpark
> > >
> >
> > What the dmesg output is saying is that your USB hardware has reported
> > a communication error to the driver. It is my guess that the ATtiny85
> > is not meeting the timing requirements for USB.
> >
> > Looking at the board there does not seem to be a crystal oscillator
> > which most people would consider necessary for doing USB
> > communication. This is an oversight on DigiStump's part and it is very
> > likely you will not be able to fix the communication issues. You
> > should contact them and tell them that your computer will not
> > recognize their device and that you suspect it is because the clock is
> > too inaccurate.
> >
> > >
> > > What can I do to make this Digispark being correctly recognized?
> > >
> > > Thank you VERY much for any help in advance!
> > >
> >
> > Three things:
> >
> > 1) Return the one you bought and get a new one. The ATtiny85's
> > internal oscillator might be at the end of the bell curve but within
> > manufacturer tolerance, which isn't enough to produce a USB signal
> > close enough to the specified frequency. Expect the seller to pay for
> > return shipping.
> >
> > 2) You can calibrate the oscillator using instructions in this
> > application note:
> > http://www.atmel.com/Images/Atmel-2555-Internal-RC-Oscillator-Calibration-for-tinyAVR-and-megaAVR-Devices_ApplicationNote_AVR053.pdf.
> > This process still might not get you close enough.
> >
> > 3) Add a crystal oscillator to the ATtiny85 and change its fuses to
> > use the oscillator. You will need to recompile the firmware if the
> > crystal is a different frequency from the internal oscillator.
> >
> > It might work on your phone and not your desktop because of
> > differences in the USB hardware (your phone's serial decoder in the
> > USB hardware performs clock recovery but your PC does not) or because
> > there are multiple things on a USB hub in your PC and the ATtiny85 is
> > less accurate than those already present devices. Admittedly I'm
> > surprised it gets most of the way to registering as a device and then
> > fails, but I don't think the problem is with the drivers or your
> > kernel.
> USB uses a variant of non-return-to-zero for clock synchronisation,
> that should™ take care of timing issues.
> Actually, using microcontrollers without crystal for soft-usb is fairly
> common (i have a bunch myself). As far as i understand (but im no
> expert), trouble usually arises more from the improvised level shifters
> than timing issues.
> Anyway, i neither think there is a driver problem, i had a fair bit of
> the messages myself, usually fixed by fixing the level shifter.


Level shifters? What level shifters??? ;)
This board is THAT tiny...even the voltage regulator is bigger
than the MCU (http://digistump.com/products/1).

I am not that confident into my soldering-fu to rearrange 
anything on this board.... :)