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From: Michael <confabulate@××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 19:26:47
Message-Id: 1882118.taCxCBeP46@lenovo.localdomain
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version by Grant Edwards
1 On Monday, 21 November 2022 18:12:41 GMT Grant Edwards wrote:
2 > On 2022-11-21, Michael <confabulate@××××××××.com> wrote:
3 > > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:50:14 GMT Grant Edwards wrote:
4 > >> On 2022-11-21, Michael <confabulate@××××××××.com> wrote:
5 > >> > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:11:13 GMT Grant Edwards wrote:
6 > >> >> I did have to give up the option of having multiple X11
7 > >> >> screens. The proprietary NVidia driver supported multiple screens,
8 > >> >> but the drivers for built-in Intel and Radeon drivers don't seem
9 > >> >> to.
10 > >> >
11 > >> > AMD APUs with embedded radeon graphics work fine here with two
12 > >> > monitors (DVI + HDMI ports).
13 > >>
14 > >> Yes, multiple montors work fine with both Intel and Radeon embedded
15 > >> graphics with Xorg drivers.
16 > >>
17 > >> It's multiple X11 screens that isn't supported. An X11 screen is the
18 > >> entity that's managed by single window manager and comprises what's
19 > >> usually called "a desktop". A screen can include multiple monitors.
20 > >>
21 > >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/multihead#Separate_screens
22 > >
23 > > You're right, I thought you meant two different monitors in Xinerama
24 > > style. I didn't know anyone who still uses separate displays
25 > > (screens) these days.
26 >
27 > I found it very helpful when I dealing with interruptions (which is
28 > about 50% of a typical day). I could flip one of the screens to a new
29 > virtual desktop (while leaving my email and web browser as-is on the
30 > other screen), deal with the interruption, then flip that screen back
31 > to the desktop containing whatever I was origininally working on.
32 >
33 > My office setup had three screens, each with four virtual desktops.
34 >
35 > When using multiple screens, you develop the habit of using one screen
36 > for common, always-on stuff (e.g. email, web browser) and the other
37 > screen(s) for working on code (or whatever).
38
39 I found Enlightenment to be most versatile in this respect. Unlike say
40 Plasma, which has two monitors locked on the same virtual desktop and when you
41 switch to another virtual desktop *both* monitors flip over, in Enlightenment
42 each monitor can switch to a different virtual desktop independently. Like
43 you, I keep always-on stuff on the left monitor, while switching between
44 different virtual desktops on the right monitor.
45
46
47 > There are two main drawbacks to the multiple-screen setup:
48 >
49 > * You can't drag a window from one screen to the other. With the
50 > monitor sizes that are common now, that's not as big an annoyance
51 > as it used to be.
52
53 With Enlightenment you can move windows across monitors, irrespective of the
54 virtual desktop each monitor displays.
55
56
57 > * There are a few brain-dead (but vital) applications (e.g. Chrome)
58 > that refuse to allow a user to run either multiple instances of the
59 > application or allow windows on multiple screens (or X
60 > servers). I'm a bit baffled by that restriction, but I'm sure it
61 > allowed the developers to take some shortcut that saved 12 bytes of
62 > data and 10 or 15 lines of code (out of many hundreds of megabytes
63 > of occupied RAM and millions lines of code).
64 >
65 > That said, you're right: using mulitple screens is no longer common.
66 > It's not even supported by many desktops these days. I switched from
67 > XFCE to openbox when XFCE dropped support for multiple screens.
68 >
69 > --
70 > Grant

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