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From: David Haller <gentoo@×××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] DVD Movie backups
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:40:09
Message-Id: 20111217013453.GA15778@grusum.endjinn.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] DVD Movie backups by Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)
1 Hello,
2
3 On Fri, 16 Dec 2011, Joerg Schilling wrote:
4 >This is interestingas some mkisofs users report that there are DVDs that look
5 >as if there is a need to introduce negative padding between some files.
6
7 There's DVDs that look (to e.g. lsdvd) as if there were ~60 Tracks of
8 various sizes used, with a playing time of, say, 40 hours overall,
9 breaking the Specs willfully. Of course, only e.g. 4 Tracks are the
10 "real" tracks. Figuring out which tracks those are (e.g. playing the
11 disc with xine, mplayer or vlc) and then extracting only those tracks
12 with e.g. dvdbackup is the only possibility. Images etc. will be
13 defective. Don't ask me how you create such interleaved tracks
14 (e.g. tracks 20-35 would be various parts of a series episode but only
15 one, say 27, would be the full track). I'd guess "negative padding" (at
16 least in the nav-structures) might play a role there.
17
18 Just this week I've had a DVD, where lsdvd just barfed. The image with
19 k3b was broken. dvdbackup for single tracks worked.
20
21 That's one reason I like to rent a disc before I buy a whole series.
22 Actually, there's only one Movie-set that has broken (one or two out
23 of 5) discs, most I own are standard conforming and some seem to not
24 even bother with css.
25
26 "Digital files cannot be made uncopyable, any more than water can be made
27 not wet." --Bruce Schneier on `copy protection' schemes
28
29 And I want to make backups of the discs I own. The less hoops I'm
30 forced to jump through (with a rented disc), the more likely I am to
31 buy something. There's a certain series (c.f. above) I quite like, but
32 the DVDs are just plain broken. Won't buy. Period.
33
34 -dnh, got to look up the publisher on above mentioned disc where lsdvd
35 barfed ... ah: Cnenzbhag. I hadn't have them on my "publishes
36 un-DVDs" list yet. Well, anyway, some publishers seem to start not
37 to produce un-DVDs lately. Just keep sending rented disc after
38 disc back as "broken" and asking for replacement ...
39
40 --
41 >> Take two Gods.
42 >Diagnostic. n. Someone who doubts the existence of two Gods.
43 Makes sense. Every regular user of diagnostics that I know of only
44 believes in Murphy. -- >>D. Holdsworth, >C. Suslowicz and Lionel