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From: Hans-Werner Hilse <hilse@×××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] PDF or PS format for daily use?
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:47:02
Message-Id: 20051024223503.7d33473d.hilse@web.de
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] [ot] PDF or PS format for daily use? by Zhang Weiwu
1 Hi,
2
3 Sorry for another tree of answers, but the others seemed a bit "fuzzy"
4 to me...
5
6 On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 16:08:50 +0800 (CST)
7 Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu@××××××.com> wrote:
8
9 > Because I always save two copies of every of my document, one in original
10 > format (eg. odt) and another in printable format for my colleagues in case
11 > they don't have the Linux fonts and software. Here comes the question should
12 > I keep a PS copy or PDF copy.
13
14 Note that PS is an interpreted language. PDF is a pure document format,
15 no "program flow" involved there.
16
17 You can do pretty funny things using Postscript you won't ever be able
18 to do with PDF. I think Postscript even has a Random Generator.
19
20 So if you do serious Postscript programming, PDF isn't an option ;-)
21
22 PDF can be thought as the final result of a computation, Postscript
23 describes the computation itself.
24
25 > I think PDF copy is absolutely the prefered format because:
26 > * easier to find acrobat reader;
27
28 Hm. Let's turn this into: On most computers you'll find a PDF reader today.
29
30 > * can be 'Tagged', especially used with OOo;
31
32 Hm, produced by OOo, but "used"?!? Can be something to think of when it
33 comes to reading on PDAs.
34
35 > * possibility to 'copy and paste', though format will be lost;
36
37 Not impossible with Postscript - doesn't have Gnome's new doc viewer
38 have such a feature? Or something on KDE? Not sure, though...
39
40 > * not to take other people by surprise with unfamiliar PS extension;
41
42 But you still have the PDF version that _may_ prevent you from opening
43 the PDFs on older Acrobat Readers when chosing a too high level.
44
45 > * different quanlity: I can save PDF in very high quanlity that I was told
46 > "can be taken to press house"
47
48 No difference to postscript here - besides the new layers feature
49
50 > * easy to convert to PS format when needed.
51
52 This is true the other way, too.
53
54 > Here comes the question: if the above all stands true, why do I ever need PS
55 > format at all? There might be some reasons to keep this format still
56 > existing. Perhaps in other areas, other then office work.
57
58 Because that's what your printer interpretes? Or its network server thingy?
59
60 > So the conclusion: for typical office workers, we can forget PS format.
61
62 Except for piping it to the printer, yes.
63
64 > Now welcome for suggestions.
65
66 PDF is fine. Hm, and if you want something very future-proof, keep a
67 plain text copy. This isn't a joke, let's discuss this in 30 years or
68 so...
69
70 > P.S. another quesiton I happen wish to have an answer: in one case, I have
71 > to keep PS format because, I can print booklet (brochure) in OOO2 right the
72 > way I expected, but if I carry this brochure to my colleague, and he doesn't
73 > have openoffice, then I try to export to PDF format, and found there is no
74 > 'brochure' option in exporting,[.....
75
76 emerge pdftk && read about it on http://www.accesspdf.com, or check out
77 the Multivalent Tools (google will tell you the address).
78
79 > .......] also there is no 'brochure' option in
80 > Acrobat Reader printing dialogue box, so it's clear if I export to PDF
81 > format I will never be able to print it in brochure style on a normal PC, so
82 > I have to print to PS file and carry it. But so far this is the only case I
83 > think I need PS format. If I only exported PDF format, can I still print a
84 > brochure? The difficulty in printing brochure is you have to make correct
85 > page order.
86
87 Of course. You can create a new PDF with above mentioned tools that has
88 pages from the other PDF layouted in a certain way in the new PDF.
89
90 -hwh
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