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From: Joseph <syscon780@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 03:17:44
Message-Id: 20130701031813.GA30820@syscon7.inet
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups.... by Grant
1 On 06/29/13 16:42, Grant wrote:
2 >Remote, automated, secure backups is the most difficult and
3 >time-consuming Gentoo project I've undertaken.
4 >
5 >Right now I'm pushing data from each of my systems to a backup server
6 >via rdiff-backup. The main problem with this is if a system is
7 >compromised its backup is also vulnerable. Also, you can't restrict
8 >rdiff-backup to a particular directory in authorized_keys like you can
9 >with rsync, and rdiff-backup isn't very good over the internet (I've
10 >had trouble on sub-optimal connections) and it's recommended on the
11 >mailing list to use rdiff-backup either before or after rsync'ing over
12 >the internet.
13 >
14 >We've discussed this vulnerability here before and it was suggested
15 >that I use hard links to version the rdiff-backup repository on the
16 >backup server in case it's tampered with. I've been studying hard
17 >links, cp -al, rsnapshot (which uses rsync and hard links), and rsync
18 >--link-dest (which uses hard links) but I can't figure out how that
19 >would work without the inevitable duplication of data on a large
20 >scale.
21 >
22 >Can anyone think of an automated method that remotely and securely
23 >backs up data from one system to another, preserves permissions and
24 >ownership, and keeps the backups safe even if the backed-up system is
25 >compromised?
26 >
27 >I did delve into bacula but decided it was overkill for just a few systems.
28 >
29 >- Grant
30
31 You did not tell us what are you trying to backup; entire system or just particular files.
32 Are you afraid of updates or data loss?
33
34 I have two machine in remote location as well. So I usually upgrade my local machine first, wait one week and if there are no surprises I upgrade remote main server
35 first. If everything goes OK (no surprises and/or complains), I upgrade remote backup machine.
36
37 I run "vpn" so I just use rsync over vpn to make an incremental backup daily (Mon. to Fri.).
38
39 --
40 Joseph

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