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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Michael Sullivan <msulli1355@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 16:56 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: |
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>> gOn Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> > I sort of covered this a while ago but in a nutshell, when I send a |
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>> > email to this list, I don't get a copy back. I have a copy in my sent |
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>> > box but not a copy that comes back from the list. I view this list |
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>> > threaded so it can confuse me if I forget to copy a message back. |
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>> > Someone could reply to my message and me not even know it was me they |
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>> > responded too. |
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>> I know of two 100% sure ways to do this, and one possible way. |
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>> 1. Use the web-based interface. My sent emails on this list show up in |
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>> the thread where they belong. I know, I know. :) |
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>> |
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>> 2. Use IMAP and utilize gmail's labels. For instance, I have a filter |
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>> set up to apply the "gentoo" label to anything on this list and skip |
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>> the inbox. In Thunderbird, the "gentoo" label shows up as a folder |
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>> under my gmail account. All new messages from the list show up there, |
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>> and my sent mail does as well. When I click that folder in |
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>> Thunderbird, I can see the threaded view of all messages on this list |
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>> -- including my own. |
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>> |
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>> 3. If IMAP is not an option and you must use POP, perhaps you can set |
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>> up a filter on gmail to move your sent mail to the inbox, or set up |
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>> your e-mail client to BCC yourself on every sent message. |
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>> > On the spam thing, I use POP access so I don't want any spam filtering. |
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>> > I do that on my end plus I used to get a LOT of false positives. Right |
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>> > now, I check via web mail and tell it NONE of what it thinks is spam is |
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>> > actually spam. It may mess up their filters but it is starting to send |
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>> > them to me so it is working a little at least. |
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>> You can disable spam filtering. Set up a filter to catch all of your |
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>> e-mail and use the "Never send it to Spam" option. I am on mailing |
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>> lists that deal with spam and phishing, probably the majority of the |
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>> messages would go to spam without that feature. On the web interface, |
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>> it even puts a little note next to the message that says something to |
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>> the effect of "Gmail thinks this is spam, but because of your filter |
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>> we've allowed it anyway". |
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>> Good luck :) |
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>> |
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>> Paul |
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> My problem is that I'm never sure if my emails actually get to the list. |
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> If I send a question in and don't get it back, and nobody responds to |
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> it, what else am I supposed to assume, except that my original post got |
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> lost somewhere on the Internet... |
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Since I've been on this list, I see two non-reply messages from you |
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that went unanswered (both in the past week). |
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10 of the top 20 contributors to this list are using gmail so I think |
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it's reasonable to assume your messages are getting through and |
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unfortunately nobody knew how to help (which is frustrating). |
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Is the problem that the list server doesn't send copies of your |
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messages back to you, or is gmail hiding it somehow? I guess if the |
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message-ID is the same, gmail would know the one in your sent mail is |
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the same as the one it is receiving, so it'll consolidate it. If |
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that's the case, maybe you would actually want to DELETE your sent |
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mail to this list, that way when the list sends it back to you it'll |
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be new again. I'm not sure if that would work. (This is assuming the |
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list sends your own messages back to you) |