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From: David Haller <gentoo@×××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good?
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 12:33:12
Message-Id: 20120513093834.GB24679@grusum.endjinn.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good? by Frank Steinmetzger
1 Hello,
2
3 On Sat, 12 May 2012, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
4 >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:20:57PM -0400, Norman Invasion wrote:
5 >> On 9 May 2012 04:47, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
6 >> > Hi,
7 >> >
8 >> > As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my
9 >> > videos on, eventually.  The prices are coming down now.  I keep seeing
10 >> > these "green" drives that are made by just about every company nowadays.
11 >> >  When comparing them to a non "green" drive, do they hold up as good?
12 >> > Are they as dependable as a plain drive?  I guess they are more
13 >> > efficient and I get that but do they break quicker, more often or no
14 >> > difference?
15 >> >
16 >> > I have noticed that they tend to spin slower and are cheaper.  That much
17 >> > I have figured out.  Other than that, I can't see any other difference.
18 >> >  Data speeds seem to be about the same.
19 >> >
20 >>
21 >> They have an ugly tendency to nod off at 6 second intervals.
22 >> This runs up "193 Load_Cycle_Count" unacceptably: as many
23 >> as a few hundred thousand in a year & a million cycles is
24 >> getting close to the lifetime limit on most hard drives. I end
25 >> up running some iteration of
26 >> # hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda
27 >> every boot.
28 >
29 >I bought my current internal laptop disk for Christmas 2008. It's a Samsung
30 >HM500JI (with 500 GB). Early on I noticed that, according to smartctl, its
31 >Load_Cycle_Count is increasing every 2 or 3 seconds. I even asked Samsung
32 >about this, but they either couldn't give any clue or didn't want to, b/c the
33 >Serial Number is from Turkey, so not from the European market.
34 >
35 >Anyhoo... I just checked the values:
36 >Power on hours: 11500
37 >Start/stop count: 2797
38 >Power cycle count: 2197
39 >
40 >But the load cycle count is at almost 12.3 million(!). That just can't be
41 >right. I stopped believing that number a good while ago.
42
43 As I said in another mail: laptop drives are built for frequent
44 unloading. Your number does seem a bit high though, that's about 1000
45 load cycles per hour...
46
47 >OTOH, I just became a bit nervous when looking at smartctl's output...
48 >Reallocated sectors: 7 (threshold 10)
49 >Calibration retry count: 1631
50 >Load retry count: 1631
51
52 That's not healty. c.f. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
53
54 HTH,
55 -dnh
56
57 --
58 To resist the influence of others, knowledge of one's self is
59 most important. -- Teal'C, Stargate SG-1, 9x14 - Stronghold

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