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From: Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:04:17
Message-Id: 4E8201C7.8050400@orlitzky.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless... by Grant Edwards
1 On 09/27/11 00:05, Grant Edwards wrote:
2 >>
3 >> Contribute your drivers upstream. When the devs change an API, they'll
4 >> update your code for you.
5 >
6 > That sounds good, but in practice it doesn't work.
7 >
8 > 1) The kernel developers don't support any existing customers. Bugs
9 > are only fixed for customers who are willing to run the next
10 > kernel verison. I've got customers that are still running 2.4
11 > kernels. 2.6.18 is still widely used. Will the kernel developers
12 > add new features, support for new hardware, or fix bugs for those
13 > customers. Not a chance.
14
15 If your users don't upgrade their kernel, then the API doesn't change,
16 and there's no problem for these customers, right?
17
18
19 > 2) The kernel developers only make sure that drivers compile. They
20 > don't have the hardware or knowlege required to actually test
21 > them. One of our drivers _is_ in the kernel. Sure, it builds,
22 > but AFAIK, it hasn't actually worked for at least 10 years.
23 >
24 > Trying to maintain two drivers (one in-kernel and one out-of-kernel)
25 > just creates twice as much work for no gain.
26 >
27
28 So (assuming the devs do break your stuff occasionally) you have to test
29 and possibly fix at least one driver whenever the API changes. I see a
30 few options:
31
32 1) Test/fix one driver, in-kernel (less work)
33 2) Test/fix one driver, out-of-kernel (more work)
34 3) Test/fix two drivers, one in- and one out-of-kernel (most work)
35
36 In any case, even if I'm wrong about the amount of work involved, it
37 would be nicer for your customers if they didn't have to ask your
38 permission to upgrade the kernel.