Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation failure

[Dale]

Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 08:03:10PM +0700, jfmxl wrote:
>> It's pretty clear that you what you think I need to know about gentoo is
>> that its not for me because I don;t know what I'm doing and cannot think
>> logically ... Ill give it another shot, but I won't stick around on this
>> damn list any longer.
>>
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> All of which highlights something you need to know about Gentoo: arund
>>> here, we start by assuming you know what you are doing mostly and can
>>> think logically.
> Alan is *not* saying that Gentoo is not for you; he is merely saying
> that running Gentoo requires a decent amount of knowledge. For example,
> I ran Ubuntu for 2-3 years, then ArchLinux for 1-2 years, and now I run
> Gentoo.
>
> If you have never manually formatted a disk, installed a kernel, and
> installed grub, you can expect to fail the first time around. Like Alan
> also said, since you are doing this in Qemu, you should not be using an
> initrd and, in my opinion, you should just have a single MBR partition
> as it is very simple.
>
> Alec
>
>


I wouldn't recommend Gentoo to someone who has never even run Linux
before or been under the hood so to speak.  That would be cruel.  Like
you, I used Mandrake for a while before I tried Gentoo.  It took me
several times to get my install done right.  Heck, it took me 3 or 4
times just to get a kernel that would boot.  Then several more redos to
get everything to work right and that was before USB etc was what it is
now.   The kernel was a lot simpler back then, I think. 

As was said in recent discussion about having a installer, the install
process teaches a lot.  Gentoo is not a hand holding distro.  Gentoo has
a learning curve and requires patience.  If a person isn't able to
handle those two things, they won't like Gentoo. If a person wants
something that is easy and noob friendly, Gentoo isn't what they want. 
Gentoo is what a person makes of it and Gentoo pretty much forces you to
make it what it is.  It certainly isn't point and click distro which is
why I'm not real big on this installer thing.  I can see some cases for
it when installing say to 50 identical servers or something but just not
for a single machine or even someone new to Gentoo.  Heck, I wish a
stage 1 install was supported.  I think I'd give it a shot if I could. 

Dale

:-)  :-)