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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System freezes during compiles
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:39:52
Message-Id: 5151F97A.6070807@googlemail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System freezes during compiles by "J. Roeleveld"
1 Am 26.03.2013 15:13, schrieb J. Roeleveld:
2 > On Thu, March 21, 2013 21:03, Grant Edwards wrote:
3 >> On 2013-03-20, Carlos Hendson <skyclan@×××.net> wrote:
4 >>
5 >>> Could this be the cause of the stalls during compiles? If it is the
6 >>> cause, is it possible for the kernel to detect such failures and report
7 >>> them?
8 >> I think that as long as the errors are "recovered" they shouldn't
9 >> cause problems. The $64 question is whether those errors are
10 >> indicating that you're headed for unrecoverable errors (which will
11 >> cause problems). If they seem to be increasing in frequency, I'd
12 >> probably be a little worried.
13 > Consumer harddrives, which I am assuming you are using, will stall
14 > indefinitely untill they have fixed the error they are encountering.
15
16 no, they don't.
17 PATa drives take 30secs.
18
19 SATA not even a tenth.
20
21 That is why dmesg can fill up with hdd errors and you don't realize it
22 until a reboot and the drive not spinning up anymore.
23
24 >
25 > RAID-drives (With TLER = Time Limited Error Recovery) will return sooner
26 > with an error-code which can then be handled by the controller and/or
27 > driver.
28 >
29 > In other words, yes, these can explain the stalls during compiles.
30
31 they would - if it wasn't already established that it was overheating.