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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Install PreQualifying Matrix
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:17:56
Message-Id: 55D20929.6010307@gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Install PreQualifying Matrix by James
1 James wrote:
2 > Hello,
3 >
4 > So another day, another borked set of installs. This really got me thinking
5 > as I have been munging around a multitude of gentoo(ish) installation
6 > options. What I really would appreciate is some feedback on the Planning
7 > Questions listed below, as to help folks organized their thoughts and
8 > hardware details BEFORE actually performing an install or test-drive.
9 >
10 >
11 > It has dawned on me that an expansive set of Planning Questions that should
12 > be answered prior to installation might be one posible way for those new
13 > to gentoo to decide critial issues before choosing from the possible install
14 > semantics for their given set of choices (constraints). As the matrix of
15 > installation choices grows, so to can options for installation. If a given
16 > set of choices does not have a viable installation pathway, of is just not
17 > recommended, then that should be clearly explained.
18 >
19 >
20 > Later on, a web interface and (a similarly in functional) GUI that is
21 > extensible for installation media also) can be developed to enhance the
22 > presentation of the decision processes. A graphical decision matrix
23 > (row-column table initially). The handbook seems to be sort of moving
24 > this direction anyway. A recent discussion of the dev list showed
25 > encouragement for pointing gentoo-noobs to some of the gentoo derivative
26 > distros for a quick install experience.
27 >
28 >
29 > Many/most of these options exist, some atrophying currently, it's just not
30 > straightforward for folks to discern the best route to their desired final
31 > result. When new installation semantics [1] mature, the installation matrix
32 > can be modified to include those options as links.
33 >
34 >
35 >
36 > Install PreQualifying Matrx::QUESTIONS
37 > ....................................................................
38 > ....................................................................
39 > ....................................................................
40 > Live Testdrive options before installation(usb/cd/dvd)::
41 >
42 > Intended Usage (workstation/server/device/)
43 >
44 > Hardware or Vitual installation::
45 >
46 > PC mobo or tablet/embedded/device::
47 >
48 > Processor/Ram characteristics::
49 >
50 > MBR vs (u)EFI (type of mobo)::
51 >
52 > Single or Multi or RAID disk configuration::
53 >
54 > OpenRC or Systemd::
55 >
56 > Grub1 vs Grub2 or other boot-semantics::
57 >
58 > File System type(s)::
59 >
60 >
61 > James
62 >
63 > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng_GRS
64 >
65 >
66 >
67 >
68
69
70 I can't help much but will give my 2 cents worth. Grub, I switched to
71 grub2 and it works. If you decide on grub1, keep in mind, I don't think
72 it is maintained anymore. Some "new" stuff may not ever work with it
73 and you may end up switching whether you want to or not. I think it is
74 Neil that uses some other boot loader that he is happy with. Maybe he
75 will chime in on it's name. I think it is a lot like Grub1 but
76 currently maintained.
77
78 I used resiserfs for ages. It sort of died a while back and at this
79 point, I'm not sure if anyone is maintaining it at all. When I switched
80 from reiserfs, I went to ext4. So far, I've had a drive to outright
81 start failing hardware wise with only a loss of the data that was on
82 that bad spot. The rest was fine. I have a UPS here so I can't really
83 say much about how it handles a power fail or being rudely removed. All
84 I can say is this, I'm happy with it so far. Others here like the
85 shiney new BTRFS. I don't use it but maybe others can share their
86 experience. I also use LVM and it just works, so far.
87
88 I'm not sure what you want regarding Processor and Ram. I have a AMD
89 Phenom II X4 955. That's 4 cores running at 3.2GHz. Libreoffice
90 usually takes around 2 hours to compile. Firefox takes around 45
91 minutes. I have 16Gbs and have portage's work directory on tmpfs. I
92 hope to upgrade both CPU and ram at some point. Hope to go to 8 cores
93 at 4GHz and to 32GBs of ram. Hope. Ka ching. $$$$$$
94
95 I use openrc. Not going to start a flame war so leaving it at that. ;-)
96
97 Hope other will also share and help give you ideas.
98
99 Dale
100
101 :-) :-)

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