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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:56:18
Message-Id: r2g5bdc1c8b1004120556zad0e0bafgfbe9d3c56c6089a9@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far... by William Kenworthy
1 On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:42 AM, William Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au> wrote:
2 >
3 >> I am however documenting my experiences for others than come after me
4 >> to this question of "to ~amd64 or not ~amd64". Nothing more. It worked
5 >> for Alan who is a __very__ experienced and capable person. It didn't
6 >> work for Mark (at this point) who is a 10 year Gentoo user but
7 >> __nothing__ more than a user type Those people can decide who they are
8 >> closer to in capabilities and make their choice a bit more informed.
9 >>
10 >> I didn't wake up this morning thinking I could do what you and Neil
11 >> and others on this list can with this distro. I'm not that silly! I
12 >> just wanted to try ~amd64 to see what happened. It will take me less
13 >> than 90 minutes to get to a new clean install if I blow everything
14 >> away and start over. It's not a big deal.
15 >>
16 >> - Mark
17 >>
18 >
19 > Is there a reason why you want to run all @system as ~amd64, and the
20 > rest stable.  To me it makes more sense (especially for production
21 > systems) to run @system as stable and only ~amd64 those apps and
22 > dependencies you want/need to be bleeding edge.
23 >
24 > Anyhow, what I really wanted to say is for more sensible unmasking,
25 > check out autounmask:
26 >
27 > moriah home # esearch autounmask
28 > [ Results for search key : autounmask ]
29 > [ Applications found : 1 ]
30 >
31 > *  app-portage/autounmask
32 >      Latest version available: 0.27
33 >      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
34 >      Size of downloaded files: 3 kB
35 >      Homepage:    http://download.mpsna.de/opensource/autounmask/
36 >      Description: autounmask - Unmasking packages the easy way
37 >      License:     GPL-2
38 >
39 >
40 > moriah home #
41 >
42
43 William,
44 In general I agree logically. There was no _strong_ reason for me
45 to run ~arch on anything. I just wanted to try it out since the
46 machine was new and this was a good time to get the experience vs
47 having lots of stuff on the machine and trying to switch later.
48
49 ~arch @system was mainly to get a jump on the OpenRC migration
50 before I had so much stuff on the system that I couldn't afford to
51 just reformat and start over if I had problems with it. Having done it
52 once I now know it won't be difficult later when it moves to stable.
53
54 ~arch xfce/gnome/kde on the other hand is not something I needed.
55 It just comes with ~arch and for me didn't work so well. For me the
56 desktop environment is mostly just a platform to get a browser or
57 VMWare up and running. kde and it's brethren move forward but the
58 revision level changes hardly impact me in normal life.
59
60 Again, based on Alan's response, this isn't about me being upset or
61 anything like that. I'm not upset in the least. Just trying things
62 out.
63
64 Thanks,
65 Mark