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On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:08:12 Mick wrote: |
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> On Sunday 25 October 2009 10:43:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: |
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> > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: |
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> Back on topic I hope, it seems to me that KDE4 has made certain choices |
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> which detract from the Gentoo way of being able to run lean and mean |
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> should you choose to do so. I am waiting to see if sqlite is going to |
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> improve its code to be able to play with akonadi in KDE4. I guess that |
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> until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries |
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> to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. |
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I doubt that will ever happen. Akonadi is designed with multi-user usage in |
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mind, sqlite is built with embedded single-user usage in mind. Any attempt to |
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use sqlite in Akondai will result in race-condition and blocker issues which |
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can only be resolved by running akonadi in some single-user mode, or writing a |
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proxy-style front end to sqlite. |
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Either way it seems like way too much effort for way too little return. |
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> Not sure if this is a signal of maturity, or if KDE is becoming as bloated |
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> as Gnome was considered to be a couple of years ago (for the most |
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> belligerent on this list pls don't take this as an opportunity to restart |
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> another ancient flamewar, I'm just making a cursory observation). |
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"maturity" and "bloat" are often conflated and confused. |
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The direction that the KDE-4 devs want to go is a completely integrated |
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desktop where everything is aware of everything else, and data is considered |
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to be just that - simply data. Every app knows what to do with any data, so |
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you loose the distinction between email from kmail and chat history from |
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kopete - the DE just "knows" what to do with it and presents it in some sane |
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fashion. |
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Well that's the goal, perhaps not the current reality. Point being, this |
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requires huge backing libs and powerful processors. And that is what the |
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average user possesses. It isn't bloat - it's what is needed to fulfil the |
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stated goal. |
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This doesn't suit everyone, so accusations of bloat tend to bubble up :-) For |
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those people, there are other DEs and WMs that suit their purpose. The *box |
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packages for instance - those give you a lean mean desktop with the absolute |
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minimum code and nothing more. |
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alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com |