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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Cc: bog@××××××.net
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] icedtea-jdk and X
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:33:37
Message-Id: 20120728143016.0b473e36@khamul.example.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] icedtea-jdk and X by Bryan Gardiner
1 On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:56:27 -0700
2 Bryan Gardiner <bog@××××××.net> wrote:
3
4 > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:22:10 +0400
5 > Евгений Пермяков <permeakra@×××××.com> wrote:
6 >
7 > > Can someone tell me, why my gentoo server wants X header to build
8 > > icedtea jdk if USE="... -X ..." ? Ok, I understand that it is
9 > > because maintainers wrote ebuild that requires X header
10 > > unquestionable. But why they did so and can be something done about
11 > > it? Do not want to have *-bin* package in system for perfectionism
12 > > reasons.
13 >
14 > Hi,
15 >
16 > If it helps, it looks like dev-java/icedtea with USE=-X only requires
17 > X to build, not to run. So after installation, the X packages can be
18 > removed by "emerge --ask --depclean --with-bdeps=n packages...". Or
19 > leave off "packages..." to see all installed packages that are not
20 > needed for world packages to run (which should include X).
21 >
22 > Of course you'll have to reinstall them if you want to rebuild
23 > icedtea...
24
25 Speaking somewhat generically:
26
27 Turns out this is fairly common in the real world. Huge numbers of java
28 apps have some form of config utility and most of them are (sadly) not
29 headless. They are gui-driven and that's the only way they can be
30 configured. We sysadmins don't like this, but there's not much we can
31 do about it.
32
33 So we compromise. It's fairly normal to install Xlibs on a box running
34 java and export the display. This appears to be what the
35 icedtea maintainers settled on.
36
37 At least the maintainers used their brain and require Xlibs, not a full
38 blown running X server.
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41 --
42 Alan McKinnon
43 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com