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From: "Jörg Schaible" <joerg.schaible@×××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: SMTP on Kmail-4.14.10 does not work without kde-apps/kwalletd-16.04.3-r1
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 11:22:16
Message-Id: ohbc0f$m0c$1@blaine.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SMTP on Kmail-4.14.10 does not work without kde-apps/kwalletd-16.04.3-r1 by Mick
1 Hi Mick,
2
3 Mick wrote:
4
5 > On Thursday 08 Jun 2017 02:04:44 Jörg Schaible wrote:
6 >> Mick wrote:
7 >> > On Tuesday 06 Jun 2017 16:35:40 you wrote:
8 >> >> Hi All,
9 >> >>
10 >> >> I've updated a number of kde (plasma) packages, including kde-
11 >> >> frameworks/kwallet-5.34.0-r1. A depclean action wanted to remove
12 >> >> kde-apps/kwalletd-16.04.3-r1 and I let it do its tha'ng.
13 >> >>
14 >> >> Following a new login I discovered that *every* time I wanted to send
15 >> >> a
16 >> >> message I was being asked for the SMTP password. For some users with
17 >> >> 6 or
18 >> >> more email accounts this soon became tiresome. The pop up advises
19 >> >> that the password should be saved in kwallet and offers the choice to
20 >> >> save it in ...
21 >> >> the configuration file! It also advises that although it will be
22 >> >> obfuscated
23 >> >> it will not be safe in the configuration file. There are two buttons,
24 >> >> one to save the password in the configuration file and another to not
25 >> >> save it (at all).
26 >> >>
27 >> >> So to retain what sanity I may have left, I had to re-install kde-
28 >> >> apps/kwalletd-16.04.3-r1, which appears to be able to manage SMTP
29 >> >> passwords without asking each time the user.
30 >> >>
31 >> >> Have you noticed the same? Is there a fix or workaround for this?
32 >> >
33 >> > Just to clarify, there doesn't seem to be a problem with IMAP4
34 >> > passwords, only with SMTP.
35 >> >
36 >> > When updating to kde-frameworks/kwallet-5.34.0-r1 I noticed this elog
37 >> > message, which implies I should no longer need the old kwalletd4:
38 >> >
39 >> > "LOG: postinst
40 >> > Starting with 5.34.0-r1, kwallet is able to serve applications
41 >> > that still require old kwalletd4. After migration has finished,
42 >> > kde-apps/kwalletd can be removed."
43 >> >
44 >> > So, do I have to wait for Kmail:4 to be updated to Kmail:5 before I
45 >> > give up on kwalletd4 despite the above message?
46 >>
47 >> I had the same problem. But event if kwalletd is installed, it was no
48 >> longer started.
49 >
50 > Yes, this seems to be the problem. Starting Kmail does not launch
51 > kwalletd5 and as a consequence kmail starts asking for each email account
52 > password separately.
53 >
54 > I guess until kmail:5 is installed I will have to start kwalletd5 by hand.
55
56 My situation is different, since I use kwallet-pam. That one will start
57 kwallet5 automatically and I am not asked by KMail for passwords (after it
58 now also uses kwallet5).
59
60 >> Note, you should install knotify:4 if you want notifications about failed
61 >> mail delivery from KMail. That was removed for me in an dependency
62 >> clean-up, because I had no entry for it in world.
63 >
64 > Hmm ... I thought kde-apps/knotify:4 was replaced with kde-
65 > frameworks/knotifyconfig:5?
66
67 I simply recognized following line in the error log:
68
69 akonadi_newmailnotifier_agent(6002)/kdeui (KNotification)
70 KNotification::slotReceivedIdError: Error while contacting notify daemon
71 "The name org.kde.knotify was not provided by any .service files"
72
73 After installing knotify:4 I suddenly got desktopn messages from KMail
74 again.
75
76 > A user complained that new messages no longer create a popup.
77
78 Seems to match the error log.
79
80 Cheers,
81 Jörg

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