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From: "Hemmann
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia users: please sign petition for open/free drivers
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:55:55
Message-Id: 200801022245.52966.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de
In Reply to: RE: [gentoo-user] Nvidia users: please sign petition for open/free drivers by "Marzan
1 On Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2008, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote:
2 > > -----Original Message-----
3 > > From: Enrico Weigelt [mailto:weigelt@×××××.de]
4 > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:00 PM
5 > > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
6 > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia users: please sign petition for
7 > > open/free drivers
8 > >
9 > > * Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote:
10 > > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:33:36 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote:
11 > > > > Keeping in mind that this petition probably might not work, I
12 >
13 > think
14 >
15 > > > > it's a good idea to let Nvidia know how many people are interested
16 >
17 > in
18 >
19 > > > > having free drivers. This might lead them to release information
20 >
21 > on
22 >
23 > > how
24 > >
25 > > > > to write drivers for their hardware.
26 > > >
27 > > > The problem with this is that Nvidia license non-free code for use
28 >
29 > in
30 >
31 > > > their drivers. They are not allowed to distribute the source, or
32 >
33 > other
34 >
35 > > > information about the code, so they have two choices for Linux
36 >
37 > drivers:
38 > > They could rewrite it step by step and release the rewritten parts
39 > > to the community. At least the kernel module, it doesn't seem to be
40 > > that complex (compared with the open code around it).
41 > >
42 > > cu
43 > > --
44 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
45 > > Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/
46 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
47 > > Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce:
48 > > http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce
49 > > Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions:
50 > > http://patches.metux.de/
51 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
52 > > --
53 > > gentoo-user@g.o mailing list
54 >
55 > It's ridiculous. I don't see how they will lose by providing documents
56 > on how to write drivers for their hardware. This is a simple solution
57 > that would not even involve them if they just gave us the specs. They
58 > have nothing to gain but disgruntled customers by locking people out of
59 > things they own.
60
61 not the hardware specs are important, the errata are important. Just ask the
62 guys who wrote the open radeon drivers back then. They fighted with a lot of
63 bugs, hardware bugs, that were never mentioned in 'the specs'.
64
65 And if you have enough foreign IP in your hardware you can not just open the
66 documentation. You might want to ask a lawyer about it. Since you have an
67 unisys adress it should be easy for you to find one who might want to explain
68 to you the finer details of 'licence agreements' and all the traps and
69 problems around them.
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