Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it?

[J. Roeleveld]

On 12 August 2014 20:21:03 CEST, Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com> wrote:
>Am 12.08.2014 um 16:10 schrieb J. Roeleveld:
>> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 03:38:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On 12/08/2014 15:28, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>> On 12 August 2014 14:06:07 CEST, Alan McKinnon
><alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/08/2014 11:10, Mick wrote:
>>>>>> I recall the devs explicitly stating early enough in the KDE4
>>>>> development that
>>>>>
>>>>>> sqlite is not man enough for the job and advising everyone to
>move
>>>>> over to
>>>>>
>>>>>> mysql.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone was looking at postgresql as an alternative to mysql, but
>I'm
>>>>> not sure
>>>>>
>>>>>> that this would bring any benefit.
>>>>> pg is a fine database, but for this use will always be a 2nd class
>>>>> citizen. Most users will already have mysql installed, or will be
>>>>> willing to install it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The number of folks with pg and without mysql will probably be
>small
>>>> Not necessarily.
>>>> People who care about databases actually supporting SQL properly
>and
>>>> performing properly will prefer PostgreSQL.
>>>>
>>>> I don't like to be forced to run a MySQL instance as well. It's
>often the
>>>> laziness of developers that causes the difficulty of supporting a
>>>> different database when they started with MySQL. If you start with
>a
>>>> different one, like PostgrSQL, supporting different database
>engines is
>>>> very simple.
>>> I don't think you read what I said.
>> Sorry, didn't read the below in what you put.
>>
>>> I didn't say postgresql shouldn't be supported, I said it would
>always
>>> end up being a second class citizen as the number of people who'd be
>>> happy with mysql will vastly outnumber the number of people who
>highly
>>> desire postgresql. So, logically, a postgresql driver in this case
>will
>>> probably just bitrot away. Whihc nicely explains the likely reason
>why
>>> that driver is not there.
>> It wouldn't bitrot away as there would be people willing to keep it
>working,
>> provided it wouldn't require a MySQL -> SQL translator to be kept
>up-to-date.
>>
>>> People like yourself who care about databases are very much in the
>>> minority of users, even on Linux. Most users across the boards just
>>> don't give a shit. Them's the breaks.
>> Users never care about what they install. I just wish the majority of
>
>> developers would actually be willing to follow some simple guidelines
>to make
>> it actually possible to others to write and maintain the drivers to
>connect to
>> different databases.
>>
>> Several attempts have been made by people to add support for
>different
>> databases to various projects. I've tried to do it myself on
>occasion, but
>> even when patches are accepted by upstream, they get broken by
>upstream at a
>> future release again because of the bad design that is often employed
>by lazy
>> developers.
>>
>> --
>> Joost
>>
>>
>wasn't qtsql once supposed to that?

If a framework like qtsql is used, swapping the database is easy.

Most developers seem to prefer to reinvent the wheel and often come up with something that vaguely resembles a circle and is held together with a mixture of glue and duck tape. 

--
Joost
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