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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:00:27
Message-Id: 53AB0DDE.7020603@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% by covici@ccs.covici.com
1 On 25/06/2014 17:30, covici@××××××××××.com wrote:
2 > Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
3 >
4 >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:55 AM, thegeezer <thegeezer@×××××××××.net> wrote:
5 >>> On 06/25/2014 11:05 AM, Dale wrote:
6 >>>
7 >>>
8 >>> I got a drive picked out at Newegg. $$$$$$$$
9 >>>
10 >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
11 >>>
12 >>>
13 >>> slightly offtopic - i notice that the drive has a 2year limited warranty
14 >>>
15 >>> has anyone managed to get anything from hard drive warranties ?
16 >>
17 >> Yes. Most manufacturers have a hard drive warranty tool online. Just
18 >> give it your serial number and it will tell you if you're eligible,
19 >> and how to go about it. I know Seagate wants you to run their own
20 >> testing util (which just does a SMART test and spits out a validation
21 >> code which you write down).
22 >>
23 >> I've gotten the same sorts of errors several times now on my RAID and
24 >> when it happens I just go through the warranty process, select advance
25 >> replacement, swap out the drive, then return the old drive in their
26 >> packaging.
27 >>
28 >> Typically costs me $10 for HD replacement (I have to pay return shipping only).
29 >>
30 >> Typically drives tend to die for me about a year after I buy them -
31 >> alarmingly often, actually. Anybody who doesn't run smartmon or its
32 >> equivalent is insane, as is anybody who doesn't at least run RAID,
33 >> though anything valuable should be backed up.
34 >
35 > Is it not true that you cannot run raid on consumer drives because of
36 > timing errors?
37 >
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41 That sounds like something EMC and WD/Seagate would say.
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43 There's no reason in the world not to use consumer drives for RAID -
44 unless you plan to add the drives to those obscenely expensive full-rack
45 SAN jobs vendors want folk to buy.
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47 The reason consumer drives tend not to work in those arrays has nothing
48 to do with the performance of the drive itself. The manufacturers flip a
49 bit in the firmware and without that signature the array hardware often
50 will not use the drive. It often really is as simple as that.
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57 Alan McKinnon
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