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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:34:28
Message-Id: 5248B8FC.8070601@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 by Neil Bothwick
1 Neil Bothwick wrote:
2 > On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:35:21 -0500, Dale wrote:
3 >
4 >> So my experience doesn't matter any then? My /usr does vary and
5 >> sometimes varies quite a bit. That is why I had to resize the thing.
6 >> Saying that I didn't make it large enough to begin with isn't the
7 >> point. When people use LVM, the reason they use it is so that we can
8 >> resize things when needed.
9 >
10 > On a desktop system, it is not unusual for /usr usage to vary, as you
11 > install, and maybe remove, various packages as your needs change.
12 >
13 > As for not making it large enough to begin with, isn't one of the
14 > advantages of using LVM that you don't need to try to guess future usage
15 > and only need to make the LV large enough for today's needs. That's one
16 > of the main reasons I used LVM, before The One True Way[tm] was available
17 > on Linux.
18 >
19 > Keep on using LVM if it is right for you, and it apparently is, but you
20 > will have to compromise on using an initramfs to do so reliably in the
21 > future.
22 >
23 > I seriously recommend you look at the Wiki page on making your own
24 > initramfs. One of the problems people have with them, and I was one of
25 > them, is that they are a black box, a binary blob that does some magic to
26 > get your system booted. Playing around with creating your own shows you
27 > just how simple and basic they really are, a busybox binary and a couple
28 > of lines of shell script to mount / and /usr. If you fear the unknown,
29 > get to know it.
30 >
31 >
32
33
34 I already did that. I'm pretty sure the first try was following a
35 Gentoo wiki. It failed. I googled and I'm pretty sure I posted the
36 error on here to, I never got it to work and as far as I know, no one
37 had a fix either. I just know it didn't work. I then tried another
38 wiki and it also failed but differently. I also tried doing the one
39 with it built into the kernel, wouldn't boot then either. Dracut
40 worked, at least I guess it did, but if it ever breaks, no clue what to
41 do and if I can't boot, same boat again. I'm staring at a error with no
42 clue how to fix it.
43
44 The point is, whether with or without a init thingy, first failed boot
45 that I can't readily fix, time to learn something else new. A computer
46 that doesn't boot isn't of much use for me.
47
48 Dale
49
50 :-) :-)
51
52 --
53 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
54 how you interpreted my words!