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From: Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Good file system that recovers from a power failure.
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 02:08:10
Message-Id: 20110103020633.GA31186@waltdnes.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Good file system that recovers from a power failure. by William Kenworthy
1 On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 10:31:42AM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote
2
3 > I use "dirvish" for backups which creates a LOT of hardlinks which can
4 > be very hard on a file system. ext2 typically lasts only a few cycles,
5 > while ext3 is only a little better even with full journalling. Coupled
6 > to the fact neither is very good with power cuts and they are a worst
7 > case choice for data security :)
8
9 Am I mis-understanding or are you mis-speaking? hardlinks != backup
10 A hardlink is simply another pointer to the same tracks/sectors on disk.
11 If the on-disk data is destroyed it doesn't matter how many pointers you
12 have to the data, it's gone. A real backup is another copy of the data
13 on another drive, preferably external.
14
15 > Reiserfs3 by contrast is very very good, with only a few instances of
16 > problems over many years (since beore 3 was even in the kernel) - none
17 > of which have lost critical data or file systems (ext2/3 devs, are you
18 > listening :)
19
20 I don't think ext2fs is being developed as such. And ext3fs is mostly
21 a journalling system backported to ext2fs. ext2fs was written way back
22 when in January 1993, and the specs were uptodate for then, but our
23 expectations, and disk sizes have grown since then.
24
25 > So, for me at least, btrfs is looking like the way forward. Its in
26 > "testing" at the moment, but I am ready to move whole systems over
27 > to it.
28
29 I'm on reiserfs3 for now. Hopefully, it'll be maintained until ext4
30 or btrfs or whatever is deemed ready for primetime. When that happens,
31 I'll do any new installs on the new filesystem. If it works, don't muck
32 around with it. Unless support/maintenance for reiserfs3 is dropped or
33 a new fs comes out with a feature I really want/need, I won't migrate
34 existing systems.
35
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37 Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>

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