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From: Marc Joliet <marcec@×××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why portage demands to unmask an unstable version of the package?
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 20:03:29
Message-Id: 2677797.vGmGgdbb2S@thetick
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Why portage demands to unmask an unstable version of the package? by Jorge Almeida
1 On Saturday 04 March 2017 10:40:06 Jorge Almeida wrote:
2 > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Marc Joliet <marcec@×××.de> >
3 >
4 > > Does nobody think of searching bugs.gentoo.org anymore? It was an
5 > > oversight: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=611386#c6.
6 >
7 > Actually, most plain users won't remember or know that there is such a
8 > thing. Your post may contribute to improve it. I know I'll remember.
9 > But that doesn't mean it makes it easy: searching "vim-core-8.0.0386"
10 > returns zero bugs. Searching "vim-core" returns several entries, one
11 > of which seems related (if one happens to know that the problem is
12 > related to gvim to start with, and assuming one is not daunted by a
13 > reference to "acl"). I'm sure this just means I'm keyword-challenged,
14 > but I bet I'm not the only one in the universe of plain Gentoo users.
15
16 Yeah, searching bugzilla can be a pain sometimes. I make use of Gentoo's
17 gitweb fairly regularly, and it provides a search function. For example:
18
19 https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/log/?qt=grep&q=vim
20
21 will show the commits with "vim" in their summary, and the commit messages
22 reference the relevant bug. Also, security bugs are often also stabilisation
23 bugs, which can help in these specific cases.
24
25 But yeah, that's just the reality of searching bug databases, I guess :-/ .
26
27 > OK, everybody makes mistakes. But reading "use emacs" is bound to
28 > touch a few cords. Even if it was said with a grain of salt, the fact
29 > is that updating a stable system after sync'ing is not expected to be
30 > a surprising experience, at least regarding packages that are not part
31 > of a huge bundle like KDE.
32
33 I agree, for example the ongoing gpgme issue has annoyed quite a bit.
34 However, issues like that happen pretty rarely in my personal experience,
35 which makes it more tolerable when they do (and it *was* resolved in about 28
36 hours, IME <48 hours is normal, often even <24 hours). And regarding the
37 Emacs remark: as somebody who uses both Vim *and* Emacs (though mostly Vim), I
38 just don't *care* about the whole Emacs vs. Vi(m) "debate".
39
40 > Regards
41 >
42 > Jorge Almeida
43
44 Greetings
45 --
46 Marc Joliet
47 --
48 "People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
49 don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup

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