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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:55:58
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs? by Dale
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> Can you try doing >> >> dracut -H /boot/initramfs-<kernel version here> >> >> ?? >> >> The man page from dracut says that -H is for the "current host" >> instead of a "generic host". Maybe the "generic host" configuration is >> messing up something with su that your actual host configuration >> needs. >> >> I use -H. As I have ben saying, my initramfs it's pretty up in sync >> with my normal system. >> >> Regards. > > > Notice, I make the distinction between Console and Konsole by making the > first letter capitalized.  It kind of gets confusing.  :/ > > I had to reboot so I made a new init thingy with the -H switch.  It > works in Console but nothing root works in KDE.  I get the same error. > Heck, Konsole won't even try to come up much less ask for my password. > Krusader asks for password and says that su is not in the path.  This is > similar to what I got when I was in a Console too. > > So, boot without init thingy, everything works fine.  Boot with the init > thingy, I can't access things in KDE as root.  All I do is reboot.  I > don't change or edit anything other than selecting a different entry in > grub. > > I use Konsole when I emerge and such as that.  I use Krusader, since > Konqueror developed a bug, to edit config files.  I don't care to switch > to a Console to emerge something or edit a config file.  This is not > going to work for me long term. > > Also, keep in mind, I boot the EXACT same kernel whether I use the init > thingy or not.  All I do is remove the stuff the init thingy needs to > work. > > Go figure.
I'm a little confused: you log in KDE as a regular user, open a Konsole, type "su -", and what happens? What do you mean with "Konsole won't even try to come up"? In the shell that Krusader provides (which I assume you run as a regular user), what it's the result of "which su"? And also, what happens when (inside the shell from Krusader) you run /bin/su? If not for the fact that you say that in a virtual console su works, I would be willing to suggest that your initramfs never does the switch_root, and so you end up with the minimal / from the initramfs, and your normal /usr. That would be beyond bizarre, but if you *can* use su in a virtual console, then it should be there. I usally log in in GNOME, open a gnome-terminal, and set a fixed number of tabs in gnome-terminal where I "su -", and work as root in there. I also can run an X11 program as root with "su -lc /usr/bin/gedit", but I almost never do that (although it works; I just checked). I don't think I understand how do you use su. Could you explain it to me, please? One last thing: create a directory /tmp/whatever, and inside it unpack your initramfs: zcat /boot/init-thingie | cpio -i Could you do a "ls -R /tmp/whatever" so we can see what actually ends up in yout initramfs? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México