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On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 05:20:00PM -0400, james wrote: |
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> > The functions being discussed in this thread belong to the |
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> > trustees (the board of directors for the foundation) [1]. Thhey are |
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> > definitely not part of the council's skill set [2]. |
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> The Gentoo social contract is fine; as long as folks do not take and |
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> expanded interpretation of those tenets. That is expansive |
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> interpretation, going beyond what is clearly stated, is a slippery |
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> slope. Too often that is the exact problem. I'd suggest a tight, |
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> conservative interpretation of the Gentoo Social Contract. If not |
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> clearly delineated, do not expand it's interpretation. |
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I'm a little lost here on why you brought in the social contract. Glep |
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39 is where the functions of the council are defined, and the bylaws |
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define the functions of the foundation/trustees. [1] [2] |
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> > mgorny and others are advocating disbanding the Gentoo foundation |
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> > and transfering all of Gentoo's assets to an organization such as the Software |
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> > Freedom Conservancy [3] and allowing the council to exist as it currently does. |
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> The post, at first read, he makes in sound as if "Gentoo" is in some |
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> sort of trouble. Now that we clearly know, Gentoo is currently |
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> sufficiently funded, WE should move very slowly. Caveat Emptor. |
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Agreed. The funding is fine (see Rich0's message). The issue was that |
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the foundation was behind in its tax filing. That is now resolved as |
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well (see rich0's message). |
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> > As a member of the council, I'll be the first to say I don't know |
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> > anything about trustee functions. For me, the question is, do we want to |
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> > control our own destiny as an organization or do we want to have another |
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> > organization control it in some way? To be honest, I do not have that |
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> > answer because I don't know how much control an umbrella organization |
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> > would try to exert, and since they would control our purse strings, I |
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> > don't know what the scope of control they would be able to exert is. |
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> Amen! So let us flush out the clear roles and authorities, BEFORE we |
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> make any changes. Thank you for your clear, precise focus, as folks, |
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> including myself, tend to get very excited when is it presented that |
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> 'gentoo is in trouble'. I've been here since 2002, after selling a large |
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> ISP (CFTnet) in 1999. Integrity is everything, in any organization. ymmv. |
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Now I'm going to remove my council hat so to speak and give you my |
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personal opinion. To be honest, I feel like some people have generated a |
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lot of unnecessary drama between the council and trustees. They serve |
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completely different functions and should be able to co-exist fine. |
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William |
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[1] https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0039.html |
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[2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Bylaws |