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From: Jorge Almeida <jjalmeida@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 32 bit firefox on 64 bit system
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:35:43
Message-Id: CAKpSnpLqW=A7KfWyVyhdx_O5Y1oxi7xsO5NMjoZMHzaQt8L-Yg@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] 32 bit firefox on 64 bit system by R0b0t1
1 On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 1:55 AM, R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 4:22 AM, Jorge Almeida <jjalmeida@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> Is it possible?
4 >>
5 >
6 > Yes, the most straightforward way I know of is to use crossdev to
7 > create an i[3456]86 GCC and compile it with the corresponding
8 > cross-emerge executable. It will then install to /usr/$ARCH and you
9 > should be able to copy it to your root.
10
11 I've compiled 32 bit stuff before, using a chroot environment from a
12 musl-based distro. But that would produce a static executable. For a
13 beast like ff and a glibc environment, I fear this would not work, or
14 at least it would be a time sink to make it work, which I cannot
15 afford.
16
17 I was hoping some USE variable et al. would do the job, given that I
18 already have multilib USE variable, but I suppose it's not that
19 simple.
20
21 I think I'll give chromium a try, although last time I tried it was a
22 CPU hog, specially with Youtube...
23 (Not to mention that I don't trust Google...)
24
25 >
26
27 >
28 > I'm inclined to disagree with your determination that switching to a
29 > 64bit OS caused the slowdown, but, at the same time, you're the one
30
31 Maybe, but I'm out of alternatives.
32
33 > who was there to notice the correlation. If your determination is
34 > correct it may be best to go back to a 32bit system - unlike ARM64
35 > processors, which seem to suffer spectacularly when operating in 32bit
36 > - early x86_64 processors may not have a penalty or be faster in the
37 > more restricted mode.
38
39 The reason I tried a 64 bit system was not speed-related: it is said
40 some software just doesn't work on 32 bit systems (e.g., widevine,
41 which I don't need, BTW), and I suppose that is a trend, so I thought
42 I might try 64 bit. Not a great choice, I guess.
43
44 >
45 > When this kind of question comes up I tend to bring up the opportunity
46 > to upgrade the computer as well. This tends to have many benefits in
47 > regards to power usage and overall system responsiveness, but I
48 > understand if it's not possible. I would point out that technology is
49 > usually amortized over a 3 year period and conventional wisdom
50 > dictates if you keep a computer longer than that as a business you are
51 > losing money due to opportunity cost of using and maintaining older
52 > and slower hardware.
53
54 This is a home computer. I do have another one, but this is the silent
55 one (no internal power supply unit). I don't know of similar
56 alternatives (silent for music listening, low power consumption, but
57 powerful enough for everyday computing-- I don't use for compiling the
58 gentoo packages)
59
60 Thanks
61
62 Jorge