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On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 22:27 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: |
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> On Monday 18 December 2006 19:54, Grant wrote: |
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> > I'm thinking this over a bit more, and it seems like the best thing |
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> > for Gentoo (or any distro) is a lot of users. More users must mean |
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> > more active developers, and more active developers must mean an |
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> > increased rate of growth for the software. |
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> this kind of users never turn into devs. This kind of users are writing 'good |
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> bye postings' in the forum about how much gentoo sucks and that |
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> INSERTNAMEHERE is much better. |
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/me searches the 'net for the INSERTNAMEHERE distro. Tell me more - I |
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like the sound of this one, I hear it's really cool, and I'm thinking of |
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leaving Gentoo... NOT... |
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> > I believe the great benefit of Gentoo is its flexibility, and |
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> > flexibility is like a meta-benefit because it makes possible any other |
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> > benefit. What do you think makes Ubuntu the distro of the moment? Is |
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> > it ease-of-use? If Gentoo focused more on ease-of-use aspects of the |
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> > Ubuntu variety, they would attract more users and thereby increase the |
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> > rate of growth for the software. |
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> all the hype about it (in ubuntus case, the hype even started before it was |
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> released, thanks to good marketing). |
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> There is something called 'target audience'. Do you want to target the noobs? |
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no! I heard once (can't remember who / when) someone say (and I |
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paraphrase from memory) "don't call yourself a noob when you ask a |
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question on a ml. noob is a term used to describe 'idiots' who don't |
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read, and don't try. I can't understand when people say 'complete idiot |
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here, just wanting to ask a question'". |
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> The 'I don't want to read anything' crowd? At the beginning, there was a |
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> big 'gentoo is for advanced users type' sign on the front page. If you dumb |
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> gentoo down to make it idiot-proof only idiots will use it. |
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If you make it more idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot. |
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You'd be chasing a moving target. |
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> It is a good |
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> sign, that people from other distros are asking questions in the gentoo |
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> forums, because they expect good answers there. It is also a known fact, that |
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> ubuntus forums are very big - but good answers are rare. When ubuntu f*ed up |
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> a X update sometime ago, ou had thousands of helpless users. Do you really |
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> want that kind of people in gentoo? |
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On a side note, this ml would have to be proof that Gentoo is |
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maintaining a decent quality. How many times have I heard "this is the |
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best mailing list with the most knowledgeable users"? |
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> nope. It is just the wave of people who want to use the |
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> cool-distro-of-the-day. |
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hey that was me once upon a time. That's how I found Gentoo, but then I |
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wasn't a noob at that stage, so I recognised what I found and stuck to |
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it... |
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Iain Buchanan <iaindb at netspace dot net dot au> |
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It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than forgiveness for being |
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right. |
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