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From: Iain Buchanan <iaindb@××××××××××××.au>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:52:28
Message-Id: 1166485521.10797.39.camel@orpheus
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy? by "Hemmann
1 On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 22:27 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
2 > On Monday 18 December 2006 19:54, Grant wrote:
3
4 > > I'm thinking this over a bit more, and it seems like the best thing
5 > > for Gentoo (or any distro) is a lot of users. More users must mean
6 > > more active developers, and more active developers must mean an
7 > > increased rate of growth for the software.
8 >
9 > this kind of users never turn into devs. This kind of users are writing 'good
10 > bye postings' in the forum about how much gentoo sucks and that
11 > INSERTNAMEHERE is much better.
12
13 /me searches the 'net for the INSERTNAMEHERE distro. Tell me more - I
14 like the sound of this one, I hear it's really cool, and I'm thinking of
15 leaving Gentoo... NOT...
16
17 > > I believe the great benefit of Gentoo is its flexibility, and
18 > > flexibility is like a meta-benefit because it makes possible any other
19 > > benefit. What do you think makes Ubuntu the distro of the moment? Is
20 > > it ease-of-use? If Gentoo focused more on ease-of-use aspects of the
21 > > Ubuntu variety, they would attract more users and thereby increase the
22 > > rate of growth for the software.
23 >
24 > all the hype about it (in ubuntus case, the hype even started before it was
25 > released, thanks to good marketing).
26 >
27 > There is something called 'target audience'. Do you want to target the noobs?
28
29 no! I heard once (can't remember who / when) someone say (and I
30 paraphrase from memory) "don't call yourself a noob when you ask a
31 question on a ml. noob is a term used to describe 'idiots' who don't
32 read, and don't try. I can't understand when people say 'complete idiot
33 here, just wanting to ask a question'".
34
35 > The 'I don't want to read anything' crowd? At the beginning, there was a
36 > big 'gentoo is for advanced users type' sign on the front page. If you dumb
37 > gentoo down to make it idiot-proof only idiots will use it.
38
39 If you make it more idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot.
40 You'd be chasing a moving target.
41
42 > It is a good
43 > sign, that people from other distros are asking questions in the gentoo
44 > forums, because they expect good answers there. It is also a known fact, that
45 > ubuntus forums are very big - but good answers are rare. When ubuntu f*ed up
46 > a X update sometime ago, ou had thousands of helpless users. Do you really
47 > want that kind of people in gentoo?
48
49 On a side note, this ml would have to be proof that Gentoo is
50 maintaining a decent quality. How many times have I heard "this is the
51 best mailing list with the most knowledgeable users"?
52
53
54 > nope. It is just the wave of people who want to use the
55 > cool-distro-of-the-day.
56
57 hey that was me once upon a time. That's how I found Gentoo, but then I
58 wasn't a noob at that stage, so I recognised what I found and stuck to
59 it...
60
61 --
62 Iain Buchanan <iaindb at netspace dot net dot au>
63
64 It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than forgiveness for being
65 right.
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