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From: Daniel Iliev <daniel.iliev@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:18:42
Message-Id: 20080629191830.2f9a0961@ilievnet.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's by Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)
1 On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:37:12 +0200
2 Joerg.Schilling@××××××××××××××××.de (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
3
4 > Daniel Iliev <daniel.iliev@×××××.com> wrote:
5 >
6 > >
7 > > So, mkisofs.c is the "Program" and cdrtools is a "work based on the
8 > > Program", right?
9 >
10 > If you believe this and what you claimed later, then the GPL would be
11 > a definitely non-free license. See the OpenSource definition at
12 > http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
13
14 No, I don't believe in anything. I'm just trying to provoke you to
15 finally explain those things here. You see, I'm such kind of person,
16 who even doesn't need you to show any reference to public sources where
17 the attacks against you could be seen. I would understand and accept
18 your position even if you had only explained it and answered
19 the questions it arises.
20
21 Unfortunately you don't do that. You don't say "There is no problem in
22 mixing GPL and CDDL in cdrtools because...", the only thing I saw you
23 saying was "If there is problem with cdrtools, the fork has the same
24 problem and another 10000 other problems"
25
26 Well, I don't give a damn if the fork has any problems, I don't use it,
27 I use your package, cdrtools. So, I'm interested only and only in the
28 cdrtools case.
29
30 Yes, the questions that I'm arising were originally asked by the people
31 you say attacked you, I don't try to hide that. The problem is I see
32 logic in those questions and unfortunately I never saw you or anyone
33 else for that matter explaining why there is no problem to mix CDDL and
34 GPL in cdrtools.
35
36 The only thing I saw was something like "I consulted layers and they
37 said there was no problem". Well, that's not enough. Quote those
38 layers. Ask them to allow you to make their statement public and
39 publish it. Do something logical at last for crying out loud!
40
41 >
42 > Unfortunately the GPL has not been written in an unambiguous way.
43 > This is why the OSI rated the GPL as non-free for several years. Some
44 > years ago, the FSF explained that the GPL needs to be interpreted in
45 > a way that makes it compliant to the rules at
46 > http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
47 >
48 > Jörg
49 >
50
51 Alright! GPL is bad! But it out is there, and some parts of cdrtools are
52 under that bad license. Like it or not, you have to obey it. So,
53 please, explain how one (meaning you) could mix GPL and CDDL w/o
54 violating GPL.
55
56 Interpret it for me, please.
57
58
59 --
60 Best regards,
61 Daniel
62 --
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