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From: Peter Humphrey <peter@××××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge --sync source
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 10:11:04
Message-Id: 25870333.8ERAaanbrm@peak
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge --sync source by Laurence Perkins
1 On Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:31:27 GMT Laurence Perkins wrote:
2 > On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 10:12 +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:
3
4 > > [OT]
5 > > Evidence is mounting that the Atom box is in terminal decline. I get
6 > > things like batches of files in the portage tree changing owner, and then
7 > > when I correct that, long lists of supposedly locally changed ebuilds
8 > > preventing syncing. And when I boot weekly into its little rescue system
9 > > to backup the main system, the root filesystem remounts itself read-only
10 > > while tar is running. Smartd recognises the SSD and runs daily tests, but
11 > > reports no errors. No amount of wiping and reinstalling has helped so far.
12 >
13 > What filesystem are you running and how old is the SSD? That sounds
14 > like some of the symptoms EXT4 had on early generation flash media
15 > where its assumptions about what order writes would physically make it
16 > to the disk in were wrong, leading to corruption.
17
18 The disk is a 64GB SanDisk SDSSDP device, which I bought five years ago to
19 replace a failed spinning disk. All partitions are ext4 except /boot, which is
20 ext2.
21
22 > So unless it was working correctly at some point in the past, try a
23 > different filesystem. EXT3 or BTRFS didn't have the same problems.
24
25 It was working just fine until recently.
26
27 > If it's just that the SSD is failing, then get a new one before
28 > something important gets damaged and you have to redo the whole thing.
29
30 Everything on it is disposable.
31
32 The box is getting a bit long in the tooth: I bought it in November 2010. It's
33 a single-core, 32-bit Atom N270 (not N2700). It doesn't owe me anything now,
34 in spite of having cost £450 at the time. I don't know whether it's worth
35 throwing any more money at it. On the other hand, I see Amazon are only asking
36 for £20 for a small SSD.
37
38 The repeatability of some of the errors it throws makes me question whether
39 the disk or something else is at fault. (What would cause a file system to be
40 remounted read-only in the middle of its work?)
41
42 I have a spare four-core, 64-bit Celeron box (I bought it for a purpose that's
43 gone away). I've been wondering what to do with it, so maybe it can replace
44 the Atom box. It's powerful enough to compile its own software, whereas the
45 Atom needs help. Whichever I use, its job will be as a server of DNS, LAN
46 mail, time and git. Maybe print too. Also it will fetch my ISP's POP mail and
47 serve it over IMAP to this box.
48
49 > The self-test capability of storage media is almost universally
50 > horrible and you generally don't get a failure report until your data
51 > has already been lost. If your SMART output gives you the raw
52 > statistics on the device instead of just pass/fail then analyzing that
53 > usually gives a better indication of whether something is about to go
54 > wrong.
55
56 It seems to report only pass/fail, so that's not much help.
57
58 Decisions, decisions...
59
60 --
61 Regards,
62 Peter.

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