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On 13/05/2022 15:43, Michael wrote: |
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> On Friday, 13 May 2022 09:39:51 BST Philip Webb wrote: |
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>> Thanks for the detailed advice, esp Frank + Dale + also Wols + Perkins. |
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>> These are my proposed parts for ANB6, wh I will buy from Canada Computers ; |
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>> prices are in CAD, of course ; a few further comments from me below : |
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>> CPU : AMD : CPAMD00131 : Ryzen 7 : 5700G : 8-core 16-thread : $ 388 |
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>> Socket AM4 : 3,8 / 4,6 GHz : Radeon Graphix Wreath Stealth |
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>> Mobo : MBGIG00145 : Gigabyte : X570 Aorus elite WIFI : $ 220 |
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>> dual PCIe 4.0 M.2 : Intel dual-band 802.11ac wireless |
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>> front USB Type C : RGB Fusion 2.0 |
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>> Memory : MEKIT00523 : Kingston Fury Beast : 2 x 16 GB : DDR4 3200 MHz : $ |
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>> 160 |
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>> SSD : SSKIT00120 : Kingston KC3000 : 1 TB : PCIe Gen4 : NVMe M.2 |
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>> R 7000 MB/s ; W 6000 MB/s : $ 190 |
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>> HDD : HDSEA00016 : Seagate IronWolf : 4 TB : CMR : |
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>> SATA 6 Gb/s : 5900 RPM : 64 MB Cache : 3 Yr Warranty : $ 110 |
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I'd also look at adding a Toshiba N300 to that, again CMR, again |
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raid-good, and you can mirror them. It'll double read speed as soon as |
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you need to read much from disk. And if you want reliability or more |
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disk space you can then easily upgrade that to raid-5 or -6 with another |
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(couple of) drives. |
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>> Case : CSDCL00015 : Deepcool D-Shield V2 ATX : Compact Mid Tower Case : $ 60 |
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>> CSDCL00019 : Deepcool E-Shield : Mid Tower Chassis, |
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>> Black, Tempered Glass, 120mm Fan, Radiator Support, |
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>> E-ATX/ATX/MicroATX/MiniITX : $ 60 |
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>> Power : PSTHL00007 : Thermaltake Smart White : 700 W |
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>> 80 PLUS Certified Power Supply : $ 80 [[ total $ 1268 ]] |
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>> Comments : the machine is intended to last 7 years , |
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>> so I'm going for more power + speed than I'm likely to use today ; |
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>> of course, I don't want to waste CAD, but will pay more for better value ; |
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>> I don't do gaming, but I do need a powerful machine for Gentoo compiling. |
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>> CPU : based on Frank's recommendation ; I prefer AMD. |
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>> Mobo : Canada Computers say this is often bought with the CPU ; |
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>> my present machine (ANB5) has a Gigabyte mobo, as has its predecessor ; |
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>> it says it can support PCIe 4.0, which matches the SSD ; |
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>> I'ld like to have WIFI available, tho' I may carry on with landline. |
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>> Memory : the mobo will accept 32 GB sticks, but I don't need them ; |
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>> I've had good experiences with Kingston. |
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>> SSD : PCIe 4 is much faster than PCI 3 ; 1 TB is enough. |
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>> HDD : I heard the warnings & this is CMR ; |
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>> I also heard Frank's advice re spin-speed : this is lower. |
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>> Case : I'm inclined to get '19', |
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>> but wonder if there's a serious diffence between 'ATX' vs 'ATXe' : |
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>> any advice wb welcome. |
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>> Power : the summary says "700 W", but the specs say "500 W" : |
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>> the price is a bit more than others which are 500 W |
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>> & I can ask in the store, so I'm willing to assume "500" is a typo. |
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>> Any further advice wb very welcome (smile to everyone). |
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> I'd try to max out memory, because more will soon be better if historical |
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> trends will continue to be observed. You need ~2G per thread on a big compile |
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> at present. If you're also running VMs or RAM intensive apps at the same |
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> time, you soon regret not having more RAM. I'd also spend more money for RAM |
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> of arguably better quality like these, which could also allow you to increase |
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> their voltage a touch: |
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Yup. 2x32GB sticks. That's what my current box has and it absolutely |
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flies once it's cached everything in memory. Last I knew, prices had |
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crashed. I think I paid LESS for my 2x32 than I paid for 1x16 for this |
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same computer in its previous (mismatched CPU and mobo) configuration. |
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> http://www.gskill.com |
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> I'm no serial builder and I tend to build desktops which last a decade or |
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> more. Therefore I do not penny-pinch on PSU, RAM, cooling, in that order. On |
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> the CPU/APU, I'll buy an AMD on the sweet-spot between performance and price |
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> depreciation. |
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Same. Although I use stock cooling because that's "good enough" for a |
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system you don't intend to hammer. I call that sweet spot "the |
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coke/champagne switch", is pricing dominated by materials/transport, or |
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by capacity/R&D costs. |
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Cheers, |
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