Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

[J. Roeleveld]

On Thursday, October 30, 2014 06:31:25 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:56 AM, J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 26, 2014 02:16:24 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> And with systemd, rebooting to a new kernel takes just a few seconds ;)
> >
> > And here I was thinking that the pro-systemd crowd doesn't care about the
> > boot-time of systemd?
> > (See the " [OT} Linus Torvalds on systemd" thread around 18 - 21
> > september)
> >
> > Please make up your mind on this.
>
> This might come as a bit of a shock, but people use Gentoo for
> different reasons, run different init systems, different udev
> implementations, and so on.  Well, believe it or not, systemd users
> are exactly the same way and use different components of systemd for
> different reasons.  People also drive different types of cars, for
> different reasons.

I agree on this. But in the thread I mentioned, Mark David Dumlao was quite 
aggressive in his wording when the subject was brought up and he claimed 
systemd proponents don't care. Canek is the biggest proponent for systemd on 
this list.

> If you're waiting for everybody who uses systemd to come up with a
> single list of arguments to convince you to use systemd, well, then
> don't plan on using systemd.

I'm not, actually. The only advantage I have heard so far that is of interest 
to me is it's supposedly faster boot-time. The only machine I have that takes 
a long time to boot spends 50% of the time to get to Grub. The rest is then 
used to bring up the host and a variety of VMs. That machine only gets a 
reboot when a new kernel is needed for the host.

> It isn't like the current versions of
> all the packages you use today are going to magically stop working.

As long as this is true, I will be happy.

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Joost