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-----Original Message----- |
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From: Enrico Weigelt [mailto:weigelt@×××××.de] |
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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:05 PM |
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To: gentoo-user@l.g.o |
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida |
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>Hi, |
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>I've made the big mistake of bying an notebook w/ geforce go 6100. |
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>The proprietary drivers *never* worked for me - the binary kernel |
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>modules crashed the whole kernel (complete lockup) after a several |
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>seconds (doesnt even need X to come up for that). |
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Somehow you later statements make me distrust your opening one... |
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> I've analyzed their module a bit and seen really bad things. |
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Really...You've "analyzed" a closed source module. Care to share |
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the details of how you performed this "analysis" ? |
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>Looks it's a hand-written bunch of assembler code with massive |
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>code obfuscation, |
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Uhhhh...perfectly good C/C++ code that's been even moderately |
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Optimized by any reasonably sane compiler will look like that |
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when it's disassembled...now how was it you did this "analysis" |
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on a *closed source* module again...? |
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>IMHO, if someone spends so much work into machine code obfuscation, |
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>he *really* has something to hide. |
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It's closed source driver, neither you nor anybody else who hasn't |
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seen the source code has any basis whatsoever to justify such an |
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"opinion" without making themselves look like a total dimwit. |
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> Not just some "intellectual |
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> property" (which is outdated alfter a few months). |
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Uhhh...if the intellectual property is so "outdated", why is it so |
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difficult to duplicate? So far no one advocating open source, can |
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manage to duplicate even the functionality of the 3D driver, much |
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less the performance? |
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> Of course, opensource 3D support is (almost) not existing, |
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> (2D works very fine), and NVidia repeatedly states that they |
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> will NOT do the slightest attempt to improve the situation. |
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Why should they, their providing for Linux, the same thing they |
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provide for Windows, i.e. a binary driver that drives their GPU |
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and performs quite well in the experience of a lot of users. From |
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their point of view the situation doesn't need improving |
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>So I strongly suggest, NOT to buy NV cards. |
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You've never written graphics drivers have you? |
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>(BTW: a few month ago, I managed to stop a customer from buying |
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>several hundreds of NV cards - yes, consulting jobs sometimes |
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>make really fun this way ;-P) |
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Maybe that was the correct decision, maybe not, depends on the |
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circumstances. Regardless, your clients are not well served by your |
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uninformed bias. |
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Regards, |
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Bob Young |
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