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> -----Original Message----- |
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> From: Hemmann, Volker Armin |
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> [mailto:volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de] |
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> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 2:22 AM |
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> To: gentoo-user@l.g.o |
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> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular |
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> dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] |
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> On Donnerstag, 17. Mai 2007, Enrico Weigelt wrote: |
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> > It *P*DEPENDs on them. That's an (strange) kind of special |
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> dependency |
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> > which is pulled in *after* install, instead of *before*. |
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> But still it |
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> > is an dependency. |
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> > |
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> > So, Xserver dependens on driver(s), drivers depend on Xserver. |
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> > Circular dependency. |
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> > |
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> > q.e.d. |
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> > |
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> |
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> aren't you ashamed of yourself, when you post stupid stuff like that? |
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I haven't done an install of Xorg on Gentoo yet (Right now I am running |
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off of a networkless install, so that doesn't really count). However, |
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when I installed it on an LFS build, on the same machine, I followed |
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their walkthrough, and it installed fine. Mesa would not install |
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without |
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installing Xorg first, and Xorg would not install without knowing where |
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the mesa source code is. Other drivers were left up to the individual |
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to handle, but that was enough for everything to load. |
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So yes, that is a circular dependency, even without Gentoo involved. |
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Not everything is simple, and not everything is cut and dry. Sometimes |
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the problem is not directly the package manager's fault. Give them time |
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to work out all the glitches. 7.2 is fairly new. The chip used by most |
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AMD64 machines, and a handful of Intel machines is not supported by the |
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Vendor with 7.2. All the support at this time has to come from the |
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Community, until updated drivers are released. It was considered a |
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greater |
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miracle when we got the ones we have now. ATI has nice graphics maybe |
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(I still prefer nVidia), but they are not friendly to the Open Source |
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World. |
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They throw us a bone every now and then, and people rejoice because they |
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can use the same hardware more easily between Windows and Linux. |
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End result is that when software upgrades, you either have to stay |
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behind, |
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or hope that the devs find a work around for you (unless you can do the |
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work around yourself). |
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I haven't heard too many complaints out of nVidia users though. :P My |
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lap |
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top is a laptop. It has to use whatever it already has in it. When |
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I build my next desktop however, it will use nVidia. |
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I guess it would probably be a good point to make that issues installing |
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X |
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Almost always come down to video card support. |
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Ken |
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