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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] hardened-sources reverted to 2.6.39-r8 :(
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:37:30
Message-Id: 20110923011939.744216d7@rohan.example.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] hardened-sources reverted to 2.6.39-r8 :( by "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)"
1 On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:32:07 +0200
2 "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)" <klondike@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > El 22/09/11 22:30, Alan McKinnon escribió:
5 > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:09:14 +0200
6 > > "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)" <klondike@g.o>
7 > > wrote:
8 > >
9 > >>> I wish people wouldn't just remove stuff without full details. If
10 > >>> there's an issue with that code, there should be a bug at b.g.o.
11 > >>> and the Changelog should mention it.
12 > >>>
13 > >>> Then folks like yourself can read it and make informed decisions.
14 > >>> As it stands, you have nothing but mystery. Argggg.
15 > >> Well deprecated version removal tends to happen because we are not
16 > >> going to aim for those versions stabilization AND there is a newer
17 > >> version available AND upstream tends to ignore bugs happening on
18 > >> older versions.
19 > >>
20 > >> What this means for you is that we are not going to force you to
21 > >> upgrade but if something fails you are in your own ;)
22 > >>
23 > >> PS: Next time come by #gentoo-hardened we won't bite you, I
24 > >> promise ;)
25 > > My comment wasn't really directed at -hardened specifically. I've
26 > > just had a belly-full lately of $STUFF being changed at $RANDOM
27 > > times by arb $PEOPLE, and not specifically Gentoo either.
28 > >
29 > > SO I sounded off a bit and let off some steam. Sorry if it came
30 > > across as directed at your team, that wasn't the intent
31 > Nothing to be sorry about, you really raised a valid point as is that
32 > our teams deprecation policies may not be the clearest out there. And
33 > as a user you deserved an explanation. I'd really hope all the
34 > projects (and not only in Gentoo) tried to justify their decisions
35 > when somebody couldn't understand them.
36 >
37 > Anyway even if that wasn't the case, constructive criticism is always
38 > welcome here :D
39
40 My favoured deprecation notification is a deprecation bug in the
41 bugzilla with the bug # listed in the Changelog.
42
43 The plus side is that the record stay in public view for ever and you
44 no longer have to explain yourself repeatedly, just link to the bug
45
46 --
47 Alan McKinnnon
48 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com