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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@×××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 21:40:39
Message-Id: 20110601213807.GA17134@acm.acm
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome? by Stroller
1 Hello, Stroller.
2
3 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:26:45AM +0100, Stroller wrote:
4
5 > On 30/5/2011, at 11:10am, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
6 > > ...
7 > > Right clicking on "Audio Disc" gives an "eject" menu point. YUCK!!!
8 > > If I'd've wanted an Apple Macintosh, I know where to buy one. I just
9 > > want my drive's eject button to work.
10
11
12 > Your Linux box isn't working, and you're complaining about Macs?
13
14 No, comPARing, not comPLAINing. :-)
15
16 > That seems a little inappropriate.
17
18 > Let me assure you: when a Mac has a hardware button, it will work just
19 > fine. It won't be disabled for no reason.
20
21 I seem to remember an old Mac back in ~1992 not having a button to eject
22 the floppy. That forced you to use the mouse in the trash can method,
23 just as Gnome is forcing me to use the mouse to eject.
24
25 > This is why I use Mac for the desktop. Because when I get home after a
26 > hard day's work fixing computers I don't want to have to do a "bat shit
27 > crazy amount of work to keep things working" [1]. I don't want the kind
28 > of grief you've been experiencing with this issue. I'd *love* to use
29 > Linux on the desktop, but it's stuff like this that discourages me.
30
31 Yes, I can understand.
32
33 > Right-clicking a CD to get an eject menu is very well-established
34 > across all UIs. It's better established in Windows, in fact (since c
35 > 95), than it is in Macs, which used to be criticised because one
36 > dragged the CD "to the trash" (actually, the Trash icon changes to an
37 > eject icon as soon as you start to drag a CD in MacOS). I would be
38 > *extremely* surprised to hear that KDE didn't have a right-click eject
39 > menu option when I last used it seriously a decade ago. None of this
40 > need prevent the drive's physical eject button working - it should be
41 > possible for the o/s to be aware of that (as it is in Windows, for
42 > instance).
43
44 Totally agree. I don't object to their being a clicky way to eject a CD;
45 I object to it being the _only_ way. My CD/DVD drive is behind a sturdy
46 sliding door. Sooner or later, I'm going to try to eject the disk with
47 this door shut, with undefined results. I'd prefer not to get into
48 dangerous habits.
49
50 > I'd be the first to admit that Macs have flaws, but this isn't one (or
51 > two) of them.
52
53 The biggest flaw the Mac has is that it's a computer. ;-)
54
55 > > It gets worse. If you double click on "Audio Disc", it opens a
56 > > window with the "files" uselessly displayed.
57
58 > I'll bet it doesn't display the actual files. Audio CDs don't have
59 > files, they have a single spiral of wav-like audio data. AIUI Linux
60 > desktops *present* audio CDs so that they *appear* as audio files, so
61 > that you can more conveniently drag and drop them to your MP3 music
62 > collection.
63
64 Ah, right. I dragged a track to the desktop, which converted it to .wav.
65 When I tried to play it, it was a cacophony, a sort of mixture of two
66 streams one to seconds apart. I think I'm better just playing the disk
67 with Aqualung.
68
69 > Typically there is a preference which allows you to choose between
70 > copying them as MP3, AAC, FLAC &c - the audio data will be transcoded
71 > to the selected format only after you drag & drop the icons in another
72 > folder.
73
74 > Stroller.
75
76 --
77 Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).