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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:37:26
Message-Id: 200809142237.21365.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage... by David Leverton
1 On Sunday 14 September 2008, David Leverton wrote:
2 > On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:28:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
3 > > because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing
4 >
5 > Not bloated.
6
7 I am sorry:
8 extremly bloated.
9
10 >
11 > > watch it devour config files
12 >
13 > Lies.
14
15 oh really? what happens when you forget the 'portage' useflag? Hm?
16
17 >
18 > > and be insulted by the troll-brigade.
19 >
20 > The only people who get insulted are those who repeatedly and deliberately
21 > spread vicious lies, FUD and personal attacks.
22
23 oh really? There are enough examples of troll behaviour. Starting with Ciaranm
24 himself. SPB and rbrown are good examples too.
25
26 >
27 > > Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.
28 >
29 > It's not "paludis-only", it will work with any package manager whose
30 > developers care enough to support the useful features of the kdebuild-1
31 > EAPI.
32
33 and that was an official api? Yes? No?
34
35 Was it needed? No - proven by kdesvn-portage
36
37 >
38 > > And as kdesvn-portage shows - it was unneeded.
39 >
40 > "Unneeded" is a funny word. You don't "need" ebuilds at all, but that
41 > doesn't mean they're not useful.
42
43 unneeded is the correct choice of words. That 'special feature that only
44 paludis - and unoffical packet manager developed by a dev team which has a
45 very high 'forcefully retired' content - has' was not needed - as shown by
46 kdesvn-portage.
47
48 > > Just another little trick by the paludis-group
49 >
50 > The KDE overlay isn't produced by the "paludis-group".
51
52 no, it was just made by vivid paludis fans. Hey, lets make an overlay a lot of
53 user want - and make it paludis only. That way we can push paludis!
54
55 > No, to provide ebuilds that make use of useful features that benefit both
56 > users and developers.
57
58 which one? Which features 'benefit both users and developers' and are sooo
59 important that the kde overlay had to be paludis only?
60
61 Name them please.
62
63 Oh, does paludis support and equivalent to 'keep-going' or '--ignore-failures'
64 or are people who wants this extremly usefull features still attacked and
65 insulted?

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Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage... Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@××××××.de>
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage... David Leverton <levertond@××××××××××.com>