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From: lee <lee@××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installing Gentoo in a xen VM
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 22:46:14
Message-Id: 87h9vz7irj.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] installing Gentoo in a xen VM by thegeezer
1 thegeezer <thegeezer@×××××××××.net> writes:
2
3 >> Guess what, I still haven't found out how to actually back up and
4 >> restore a VM residing in an LVM volume. I find it annoying that LVM
5 >> doesn't have any way of actually copying a LV. It could be so easy if
6 >> you could just do something like 'lvcopy lv_source
7 >> other_host:/backups/lv_source_backup' and 'lvrestore
8 >> other_host:/backups/lv_source_backup vg_target/lv_source' --- or store
9 >> the copy of the LV in a local file somewhere.
10 >
11 > agreed. you have two choices, you can either use dd and clone the LV
12 > like a normal partition.
13 > alternatively you can use split mirrors and i do this to clone up
14 > physical devices:
15 >
16 > 1. make a mirror of the lv you want to copy to /dev/usb1
17 > 2. # lvconvert --splitmirrors 2 --name copy vg/lv /dev/usb1
18 >
19 > in 2 it says
20 > " split the mirror into two parts
21 > give the new version the name 'copy'
22 > leave this on the pv /dev/usb1 "
23 >
24 > you then need to remove it if you want from your voume group
25
26 And then you have a copy?
27
28 >> Just why can't you? ZFS apparently can do such things --- yet what's
29 >> the difference in performance of ZFS compared to hardware raid?
30 >> Software raid with MD makes for quite a slowdown.
31 > sorry but that's just not true, if you choose the correct raid level and
32 > stripe it can easily compete,
33
34 No, it can not. You can use the same raid level and stripe size with
35 the same disks, once with software raid (md), once with hardware raid.
36 When there's disk activity going on, you will notice an annoying
37 sluggishness with the software raid which hardware raid just doesn't
38 have.
39
40 > and be more portable (you don't have to find the identical raid card
41 > if the raid card goes bang);
42
43 That depends on what cards you use. HP smart arrays are supposed to be
44 compatible throughout different models.
45
46 > many raid card i would argue are even underpowered for their required
47 > iops
48
49 When you require more iops than your hardware delivers, you need to
50 upgrade the hardware. Do you have some number to show that md raid
51 performs better, without the sluggishness, than a decent hardware raid
52 controller with otherwise identical hardware?
53
54
55 --
56 Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
57 might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.