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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 19:52:07
Message-Id: 201105142051.15905.michaelkintzios@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) by Indi
1 On Saturday 14 May 2011 20:06:18 Indi wrote:
2 > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0200, Willie Wong wrote:
3 > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote:
4 > > > Sounds like the old "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" to me...
5 > > > What makes the subtractive method better?
6 > >
7 > > This is how I interpret Alan's message:
8 > >
9 > > For certain flags when you enable it for a package you will have to
10 > > also enable it for its dependencies. So you'll have to chase down the
11 > > dependency tree if you enable a flag for a user package and several of
12 > > the libraries it uses need the flag too, which may end up requiring
13 > > doing several emerge --pretend cycles to sort out.
14 > >
15 > > Whereas if you subtract functionality, you usually won't have to
16 > > change the libraries. (The corollary being that if you are going to
17 > > remove functionality from the libraries, you should do so by globally
18 > > removing the use flag, rather than on the package level.)
19 >
20 > Well perhaps it's nitpicking, but I like my systems as lean as possible.
21 > I almost never emerge anything without -av options, just so I can say
22 > "no" and edit package.use if need be. It rarely causes more than a few
23 > extra seconds to be consumed, since my needs don't change terribly often.
24 > Depends on how one uses the system, I suppose...
25
26 Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last KDE
27 upgrade. I had a cursory look, but I missed some USE flag changes (scanner,
28 rdesktop and vnc I think) which started removing packages and libraries.
29 Other flag changes may well have added packages that I didn't need, but didn't
30 have the time to go through the lot at the time.
31 --
32 Regards,
33 Mick

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