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On 08/11/2016 23:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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> On November 8, 2016 9:52:51 PM GMT+01:00, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> On 08/11/2016 22:00, Ian Zimmerman wrote: |
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>>> On 2016-11-08 13:12, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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>>>> Why are you even trying to do this yourself? |
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>>> Because mail is by far the best digital communication channel I know |
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>>> me (with my preference for text and logic over image and fuzzy |
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>> feeling), |
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>>> and so I want to do it as close to perfect as I can. |
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>> Why do you think you can do mail mail than your ISP can do mail? |
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You know, dealing with 10,000,000 inbound mails a day usually means |
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something suffers. And if you're using the free ISP service, you go in |
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the big bucket of spam rules: |
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> When said ISP starts blocking legitimate email from people I correspond with on a regular basis who use gmail and hotmail, they become as reliable as old fashioned mail services have become. |
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I can't really comment. Are these people considered spammers by track |
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record by your ISP? |
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> And the blocking is done silently and can't be disabled. |
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Yes that is quite usual. The rules are global (or at least wide in |
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scope) and the admins put them in for a reason. Perhaps they will tell |
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you what the reason is |
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> That already made me start looking for alternatives. |
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> When they then refused to relay emails using my own domain even though I am inside their network and am not sending large amounts of email. I ended up using those alternatives. |
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Correct again. When ISPs let their customers send their own mail out |
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from their regular customer ranges, and that mail is |
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spammy/malwarey/dodgy/goes on RBL's, then the entire ISP block gets a |
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bad rep and everyone suffers |
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> I would prefer to use my ISP to handle the mail deliveries, but when they are this incompetent.... |
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Or maybe you were using their free mail service. |
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Most ISPs offer managed mail (at a price). |
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It's the old story after all: cheap, good, fast. Pick any two. |
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Alan McKinnon |
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alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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