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From: Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:03:05
Message-Id: 9acccfe50907112203s4cf0e73dg78dc1cb1c8541419@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes by Keith Dart
1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Keith Dart<keith@×××××××××.biz> wrote:
2 > On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:53:22 -0700
3 > "Kevin O'Gorman" <kogorman@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >
5 >> This is NOT the way for Linux to make progress in the desktop wars,
6 >> folks.
7 >
8 > Works for me. ;-)
9 >
10 > But its true that Xorg is making some rapid progress. There's some
11 > growing pains.  If you are running Gentoo unstable mask (~<X>) then
12 > you are on the "bleeding edge" of open source development. Therefore
13 > occasional breakage is to be expected. File a bug, make it better.
14 >
15 > If you want stable, then use Ubuntu LTS release, or CentOS. Stable, but
16 > boring. ;-)
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18
19 Thanks for the sermon, pastor. I guess.
20
21 Why did you jump to the conclusion that I am running unstable? I'm
22 not. I never have, though I occasionally (like twice in the 7 years
23 I've been using gentoo) marked a particular package for unstable. So
24 by elimination, the term for what I have should be "stable". Why then
25 try to exile me to a distro I don't want?
26
27 I do, however, pretty much need "working". A black screen, dead input
28 devices, and impossibly esoteric config files just don't cut it. (The
29 HAL learning curve is a danger in itself, and is just not worth it to
30 me. I don't expect to touch it for years, which means that when it
31 eventually gets broken I'll have forgotten it completely and have no
32 idea how to proceed safely).
33
34 I got a solution by disabling HAL in gentoo. And for my broken ubuntu
35 systems, I did indeed go back to LTS, but not so much because of the
36 LT, it's just that 8.04 is the last one that worked. That's the
37 upside of a binary distro -- my November backup was good enough (i.e.
38 it worked), and an overnight update brought everything up to speed and
39 up to snuff. The things that change a lot are all in /home, which was
40 not affected.
41
42 Hopefully, I can now get on with my summer projects. I'm done with
43 HAL and X. Until next time.
44
45 ++ kevin
46
47 --
48 Kevin O'Gorman, PhD