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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:41:15
Message-Id: 20140605114006.37a0db29@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower by Dutch Ingraham
1 On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400
2 Dutch Ingraham <stoa@×××.us> wrote:
3
4 > Thanks everybody for your help. I've made the further suggested
5 > changes, but I remain with the three hard blocks.
6
7 Can you provide the emerge output of the following command?
8
9 emerge --tree --unordered-diplay -uDNv @world
10
11 This makes it more clear what pulls in systemd.
12
13 Once you know that, you can mask the chain and use an alternative;
14 other than that, MATE is in the Portage tree and therefore you can
15 remove the MATE overlay to avoid running into unnecessary blockers.
16
17 This happening has nothing to do with Gentoo or systemd; around four
18 years ago the development of pm-utils stopped, which causes UPower to
19 nowadays take a decision. This results in the following scenarios:
20
21 1. If you need pm-utils, you either need to switch to the
22 upower-pm-utils fork or to systemd;
23
24 2. If you don't need pm-utils, you either need to
25
26 a) upgrade to upower-0.99 once reverse dependencies support it
27 and it is stabilized (this has no dependency on systemd);
28
29 b) switch to upower-pm-utils despite not needing pm-utils;
30
31 c) switch to systemd.
32
33 Gentoo reflects that decision as magic can't happen from one day to
34 the other; while trying to keep a fork upower-pm-utils alive as long as
35 it can be kept working given the manpower, kernel API and so on...
36
37 --
38 With kind regards,
39
40 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
41 Gentoo Developer
42
43 E-mail address : TomWij@g.o
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