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From: Michael <confabulate@××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted hard drives on LVM and urgent power shutdowns.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 07:50:09
Message-Id: 2198550.iZASKD2KPV@lenovo.localdomain
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted hard drives on LVM and urgent power shutdowns. by Dale
1 On Monday, 12 September 2022 06:57:58 BST Dale wrote:
2 > William Kenworthy wrote:
3 > > If your using nut, it has to be setup - and should be regularly tested
4 > > to make sure it works.
5 > >
6 > > BillK
7 >
8 > I think upsmon is part of nut. I keep forgetting that since the service
9 > is ups something. Thing is, I've never quite figured out how to test it
10 > without unplugging and running down the batteries. I do have everything
11 > configured and have ever since I built this puter. I did the same on
12 > previous puter and UPS. Pretty sure it will work. When power blinks
13 > etc, it does notice it and logs it in messages file. Also, the upsc
14 > command outputs the info correctly when run.
15 >
16 > I wish I could send a command to the UPS to fake a power failure, wait
17 > say one minute and then it tell puter to shutdown all on its own. If it
18 > does it correctly, it should work in the event of a actual power failure
19 > and not run down my batteries either. I try to keep the batteries
20 > topped off at all times since we do on occasion have some crazy driver
21 > not watching where he/she is going and hits a power pole. Doesn't do
22 > the pole any good and the car seems to not enjoy it either. :/
23 > Sometimes the driver is no longer caring about it.
24 >
25 > I actually wish I had a much larger external battery. Thing is, I'm
26 > concerned about the charging bit. The charging section in a UPS isn't
27 > really that powerful since it mostly just keeps the batteries topped
28 > off. I have 7Amp/hr batteries and I think it takes like 7 or 8 hours to
29 > charge from almost dead. I'd guess it is at most a 1 to 1.5 amp
30 > charging circuit.
31
32 Many UPSs containing two batteries connected in series always end up with one
33 battery less charged than the other. This is because although the current
34 which flows through the circuit is the same, due to Ohm's Law the voltage
35 drops across each battery as the resistance decreases along the circuit.
36 Therefore the first battery never gets fully charged. The opposite happens
37 with a discharge cycle.
38
39 Once every three months or every time I experience a noticeably prolonged
40 power cut, I shutdown the loads, take the UPS off line, disconnect the
41 batteries and top up each battery's charge with a car battery charger. Then I
42 replace them but make sure I reverse their positions. I have found this is
43 the best way to maximise their service life.
44
45 I also use the car battery charger to top up single battery UPSs, but I only
46 do this twice a year. I have found the charge these single batteries need is
47 comparably shorter.
48
49
50 > If you know of a command to test without running down batteries, I have
51 > a Cyberpower UPS and I'm certainly interested. It's only a decade or so
52 > old so has quite a few features. There may be a way to do this but I've
53 > yet to find it.
54 >
55 > Thanks.
56 >
57 > Dale
58 >
59 > :-) :-)
60
61 Check the NUT command set and options, in particular upsmon. You'll probably
62 want to try issuing a 'forced shutdown' command 'upsmon -c fsd', which won't
63 wait for the batteries to discharge first, like it does with upssched. Before
64 you try this, best sync your disks first and remount them read only just in
65 case.
66
67 There may be some UPS specific test function too, this very much depends on
68 the UPS and driver. You can check what variables a UPS has and how to tweak
69 them to cause a shutdown by running 'upsrw -l', if any of the exposed UPS
70 variable are tweakable.

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