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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:14:43
Message-Id: 55C3C01B.6070006@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED] by "J. Roeleveld"
1 On 06/08/2015 20:28, J. Roeleveld wrote:
2 > On Thursday, August 06, 2015 02:59:09 PM Mick wrote:
3 >> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 22:47:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
4 >>> On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote:
5 >>>> On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote:
6 >>>>> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
7 >>>>>> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent
8 >>>>>> years so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs
9 >>>>>> and do something useful. I'm reminded of an old saw about PHP:
10 >>>>>>
11 >>>>>> The nice thing about php is it let's everyone and their dog write
12 >>>>>> code.
13 >>>>>> The bad thing about php is that they do.
14 >>>>>
15 >>>>> Your imagination[1] footnote didn't make it to the list. I thought for
16 >>>>> a minute that you used some php parser ... :p
17 >>>>
18 >>>> It's not that old for an "old saying".
19 >>>> I can't find a reference to that saying older then august 2014 using
20 >>>> Google.
21 >>>>
22 >>>> And all those are links to the same email written by our own Alan
23 >>>> McKinnon....
24 >>>
25 >>> Ah! That's because it was I who made it up years ago and have told it to
26 >>> lots of people.
27 >>>
28 >>> About a year ago is obviously the first time I wrote it down :-)
29 >>
30 >> Run the same search for perl - it's probably more appropriate than php and
31 >> may find older samples of the same ol' saying.
32 >
33 > Nope, can't find a single hit with either line.
34 >
35 > Also would surprise me, as the largest part of the massive amount of bad code
36 > (mostly copy/pasted from each other) arrived after PHP appeared.
37
38 It works just as well for php, perl, basic, VB, J2EE frameworks and any
39 draggy-droppy workflow thing that claims to produce runnable code.
40
41 It seems that only C is immune, probably because of the high barrier to
42 entry that must be climbed before writing something useful (and hello
43 world is not useful :-) )
44
45
46 --
47 Alan McKinnon
48 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com