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On 11/22/14 01:20, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:13 PM, <wireless@×××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>> On 11/21/14 17:10, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> If you want to work on them, you might consider becoming a dev, or |
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> working on them in an overlay (which is a good way to become a dev, |
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> actually). |
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Exactly, I agree. That is why the idea to have a small core of Gentoo |
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elites (the chosen devs) and move everyone else into overlays, is a |
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very bad idea. |
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> You seem to be under the impression that Gentoo devs work on things |
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> that the Gentoo leadership tells them to work on. That is hardly the |
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> case, many of our most important packages are also the least |
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> maintained, because devs work on what they work on, and not on the |
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> stuff the leadership considers important. If a Gentoo developer |
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> wanted to work on Java the leadership wouldn't interfere with that |
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> just as they didn't interfere with a couple of devs deciding to fork |
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> udev. |
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> Rich |
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Not really. I think you misss my points and intentions exactly. Java is |
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critical and growing. Folks are constantly knocking on the gentoo door |
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with technologies, that are java centric. Here is the latest one, just |
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posted to gentoo-dev: |
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https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Android |
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I tried to participate with the java herd/project. Few have the |
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authority to close old java bugs. The few that do, are apathetic, |
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absent or just do not 'give a shit'. I was told to go work |
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on java bugs, maybe somebody will notice. Really. |
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The first 100 or so I looked at, are deprecated. They just need somebody |
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to 'remove them' the BGO java backlog is being artificially used to |
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prevent java work on gentoo. Somebody of authority needs to open |
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up java for other folks to work on. Close the 100 oldest bugs |
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is a no brainer and a good start, yet nobody will do that, and nobody |
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else is allowed to close them. *CONVENIENT* if you hate java and are |
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in control. |
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If this is not true, the the council should open up java bug cleaning. |
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Worst case scenario, these hundreds of old bugs will have to be |
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re-filed, with updated data from this decade..... (actually a very |
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excellent idea in and of itself). |
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This policy, whether part of a grand conspiracy, or due to apathetic |
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leadership, has the net effect to run off potential new devs to gentoo |
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and who like java. |
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PS. sorry about forking to new threads, my access is now nntp |
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(earlybird) and it just down not follow the thread correctly. |
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Rich, I actually appreciate you help. But somebody of authority is going |
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to have to step into this java on gentoo mess and clean house, |
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provide leadership and encourage (hell, just remove the roadblocks) |
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from java on gentoo. |
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OK? |
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sincerely, |
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James |
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