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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Cc: Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.7 && python-updater
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:27:46
Message-Id: AANLkTi=Bx5JOjBJzToW3z9ZaRCbcfZfosGva991A+4a+@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.7 && python-updater by Neil Bothwick
1 On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote:
2 > On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:33:14 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
3 >
4 >> > Aren't those manually added to the list by python-updater? So you
5 >> > need to use -dmanual to prevent further rebuilding of them.
6 >
7 >> I guess I'm not clear on the use of 'manual' here.
8 >
9 > It's explained in the manual page (sorry :)
10 >
11 > Manual means manually added to the list by python-updater, rather than
12 > using any sort of detection.
13 >
14
15 OK, I won't bother with the many definitions of the word manual or how
16 that effects the conversation from my end 'cause that don't matter
17 much to Linux man-page writers. ;-) However I'm still failing to see
18 the interest in this as it only removes 1 or 4 packages (boost) that
19 I've rebuilt multiple time. 75% of the failures still fail using
20 -dmanual.
21
22 c2stable ~ # python-updater -p -dmanual
23 * Starting Python Updater...
24 * Main active version of Python: 2.7
25 * Active version of Python 2: 2.7
26 * Active version of Python 3: 3.1
27 * Adding to list: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
28 * Adding to list: app-emulation/virtualbox:0
29 * Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0
30 * Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0
31 * emerge -Dv1 --keep-going -p app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
32 app-emulation/virtualbox:0 app-office/openoffice-bin:0
33 app-office/openoffice-bin:0
34
35 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
36
37 Calculating dependencies... done!
38 [ebuild R ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110129
39 USE="-development" 0 kB
40 [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-bin-3.3.0 USE="-gnome -java"
41 LINGUAS="en -ar -as -ast -be_BY -bg -bn -ca -ca_XV -cs -da -de -dz -el
42 -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -gl -gu -he -hi -hu -id -is -it -ja
43 -ka -km -kn -ko -ku -lt -lv -mk -ml -mr -my -nb -nl -nn -oc -om -or
44 -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -sh -si -sk -sl -sr -sv -ta -te -th -tr
45 -ug -uk -uz -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
46 [ebuild R ~] app-emulation/virtualbox-4.0.4-r1 USE="additions
47 alsa opengl python qt4 sdk -doc -extensions -headless -java
48 -pulseaudio -vboxwebsrv -vnc" 0 kB
49
50 Total: 3 packages (3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
51 c2stable ~ # python-updater -p
52 * Starting Python Updater...
53 * Main active version of Python: 2.7
54 * Active version of Python 2: 2.7
55 * Active version of Python 3: 3.1
56 * Adding to list: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
57 * Adding to list: app-emulation/virtualbox:0
58 * Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0
59 * Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0
60 * Adding to list: dev-libs/boost:1.42
61 * check: manual [Added to list manually, see CHECKS in manpage
62 for more information.]
63 * emerge -Dv1 --keep-going -p app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
64 app-emulation/virtualbox:0 app-office/openoffice-bin:0
65 app-office/openoffice-bin:0 dev-libs/boost:1.42
66
67 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
68
69 Calculating dependencies... done!
70 [ebuild R ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110129
71 USE="-development" 0 kB
72 [ebuild R ] dev-libs/boost-1.42.0-r2 USE="eselect python -debug
73 -doc -icu -mpi -static-libs -test -tools" 0 kB
74 [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-bin-3.3.0 USE="-gnome -java"
75 LINGUAS="en -ar -as -ast -be_BY -bg -bn -ca -ca_XV -cs -da -de -dz -el
76 -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -gl -gu -he -hi -hu -id -is -it -ja
77 -ka -km -kn -ko -ku -lt -lv -mk -ml -mr -my -nb -nl -nn -oc -om -or
78 -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -sh -si -sk -sl -sr -sv -ta -te -th -tr
79 -ug -uk -uz -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
80 [ebuild R ~] app-emulation/virtualbox-4.0.4-r1 USE="additions
81 alsa opengl python qt4 sdk -doc -extensions -headless -java
82 -pulseaudio -vboxwebsrv -vnc" 0 kB
83
84 Total: 4 packages (4 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
85 c2stable ~ #
86
87
88
89 >> They are
90 >> automatically added. If they are correctly rebuilt then they shouldn't
91 >> need to be added a second time, correct? However they are. (Over and
92 >> over...)
93 >>
94 >> Basically, it is my understanding that if everything is correctly
95 >> updated then on the second pass it should say there's nothing to do,
96 >> right?
97 >
98 > If it can determine that that's the case, yes. Packages are added
99 > manually because python-updater cannot tell for sure whether they should
100 > be rebuilt this time. That's certainly true for ooo-bin and boost, lnd
101 > prevented by -dmanual. app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs seems
102 > different, I've just been hit by this one, so I ignored it after the
103 > first build. I suspect a bug has already been reported.
104 >
105
106 Fair enough. I'm also seeing Virtualbox as shown above.
107
108 Thanks for the info. I've done the python-updater steps too many times
109 now and from now on will basically do it just once and after that take
110 what it says with a grain of salt.
111
112 Cheers,
113 Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.7 && python-updater Jacques Montier <jacques.montier@×××××××××××.fr>
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.7 && python-updater Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>