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From: "caveman رَجُلُ الْكَهْفِ 穴居人" <toraboracaveman@××××××××××.com>
To: Gentoo <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: [gentoo-user] why libera?
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 18:44:57
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1 hi. i personally think gentoo should've gone to
2 OFTC instead of libera, because:
3
4 - OFTC is the true libera, thanks to its better
5 tor support, which is not surprising as it is
6 the home of the tor project.
7
8 - OFTC has more users at the moment, and is
9 specifically designed for FOSS projects.
10
11 - OFTC is older than libera, with less problems to
12 solve.
13
14 despite libera being called after liberty in latin,
15 its tor support is hypocritical, as it requires
16 registering SASL over an un-tor-ed connection,
17 hence revealing your IP address, which defeats the
18 whole point of tor (hiding your IP address).
19 OFTC, on the other hand, is the home of the tor
20 project, and has best tor support. so, in a
21 sense, OFTC is the true libera.
22
23 the only reason that i can think of that would
24 explain why a group of people would create libera,
25 is because their /hobby/ is to maintain IRC
26 servers.
27
28 i'm not for freenode either. the latest move was
29 unacceptable, and it's good that people started
30 leaving freenode, to show the new owners that
31 while they can purchase a bunch of servers and
32 domain names, they cannot purchase people.
33
34 so i like that this freenode drama happened. but
35 i dislike that we solved it by creating libera. i
36 think we should've solved it by going the simpler
37 solution: go to what already exists, and already
38 has more liberty (more tor friendliness): OFTC.
39
40 but, what happened is that we -instead- went to
41 the freenode copy-cat, with the same hypocritical
42 tor support, aka libera, which is as far away from
43 liberty as freenode was away from free.
44
45 while this subject is still warm and in the
46 making, i recommend gentoo to change its opinion
47 ans switch to the OFTC.
48
49 rgrds,
50 cm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why libera? Michael Cook <mcook@××××××.net>