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From: Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev upgrade 208 > 212-r1, openrc USE flag changed to disabled?
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 21:06:16
Message-Id: CAOazyz3UqOg3ZsK_GYZcGsap7uvVvZppvqYXRUdOZGqBxRcTHw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] udev upgrade 208 > 212-r1, openrc USE flag changed to disabled? by Rich Freeman
1 On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
2 > On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl@g.o> wrote:
3 >> And in addition add the following at
4 >> make.conf, as it seems that we are enforced to have files we never
5 >> use.
6 >
7 > Hate to break the news to you, but by your definition you're
8 > "enforced" to have thousands of files you never use on your system.
9 > How many man pages do you actually use? How many packages in
10 > /usr/portage do you use?
11 >
12 > The systemd units are there so that if you ever do switch to systemd
13 > you don't have to rebuild your entire system to get them. Ditto for
14 > the files in /etc/init.d. If you don't like them you can mask them -
15 > that's what that feature is for...
16 >
17 > Rich
18 >
19
20 I still think that my definition is correct, there should have been
21 openrc profile and systemd profile, the effort your are trying to push
22 including for your-self of simple migration into systemd is agenda
23 that I would have liked see kept away from people who chose not to be
24 effected by these efforts. Until now we had no files just there
25 because of kde<->gnome migration or any other future migration people
26 may want.
27
28 I had never needed to use the mask until the systemd files was
29 enforced without having a profile nor USE. The correct approach would
30 have to add openrc USE and not remove the systemd USE.
31
32 But all is history now, for now we are left with using eudev +
33 manually mask anything of systemd as these are irrelevant + forcing
34 /usr and initramfs etc...
35
36 Regards,
37 Alon