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From: Joseph <syscon780@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 01:26:00
Message-Id: 20140205012616.GA2412@syscon7.ed.shawcable.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 On 02/04/14 18:38, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
2 >On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Joseph <syscon780@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> On 02/04/14 18:03, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
4 >>>
5 >>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joseph <syscon780@×××××.com> wrote:
6 >>>>
7 >>>> Is it possible to go from "systemd" to "udev"?
8 >>>>
9 >>>> I don't like the way systemd works. I have a problem with mounting USB
10 >>>> sick
11 >>>> (it mounts as root:root) and I can not even change the permission.
12 >>>> I am receiving Hylafax fax transmission reports (email) on all incoming
13 >>>> faxes and now these emails are empty.
14 >>>> It all start happening after switching to systemd :-(
15 >>>
16 >>>
17 >>> If I'm not mistaken, systemd/udev doesn't mount removable devices by
18 >>> default, it just notifies the system about new volume and creates
19 >>> links under /dev/disk. In GNOME 3 udisks is the one doing the actual
20 >>> mounting (AFAIU); with GNOME 2 it was gnome-volume-manager, etc.
21 >>>
22 >>> What DE do you use? Are you using something like pmount?
23 >>>
24 >>> Regards.
25 >>> --
26 >>> Canek Peláez Valdés
27 >>> Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
28 >>> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
29 >>
30 >>
31 >> I'm using XFCE It all started to happen after I switched to systemd. So
32 >> maybe on the weekend I'll try to switch one of the machine back to udev.
33 >> I think all I need is to unmerge "systemd" and emerge "udev" without
34 >> rebooting.
35 >
36 >As others have said, udev *IS* systemd. It's the same code and
37 >configuration [1].
38 >
39 >And if you don't reboot after uninstalling systemd (while having
40 >booted with it), I don't think your system will stay stable for much
41 >longer.
42 >
43 >I see that thunar depends on gvfs, which can use udisks or
44 >gnome-disk-utility. Which one do you have? What does portage it says
45 >when you do:
46 >
47 >emerge -pv gnome-base/gvfs
48 >
49 >If you have the gdu USE flag enabled, I recommend switching to udisks.
50 >It's possible that it will fix everything, but I have never used Xfce,
51 >so I'm not certain.
52 >
53 >Regards.
54 >
55 >[1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/udev
56
57 I have: gnome-base/gvf with "gdu" flag disabled.
58 and sys-fs/udisks
59 Installed versions: 2.1.0(2)(02:33:06 PM 12/28/2013)(gptfdisk introspection -cryptsetup -debug -selinux -systemd)
60
61 so it seems I have them both: gvfs and udisks.
62 Maybe I should enabled "systemd" flag in udisks since I"m using it already.
63
64 --
65 Joseph