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On 04/03/2014 20:20, Guido Budack wrote: |
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> Hi, |
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> actually I am reading the handbook because I intend to change from |
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> debian to gentoo. |
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> I am some sort of a 'purist'.. however... |
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> I just ask myself while reading chapter 3 very carefully: |
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> isn't it necessary to modify any fstab after you installed partitions |
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> and file-systems resp. |
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> mouting the same? |
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> Since now I can't see anything comparable in the handbook. |
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It's in later chapters |
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> Secondly I intend to install from scratch- that means no network. |
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Um, errr, no :-) |
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If you do a sane install, you will have the network connectivity you set up. |
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What do you mean by "install from scratch"? Surely you aren't |
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contemplating doing a stage 1? Yikes, I haven't done one of those in |
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*years*. Stage 1 is only useful for building the stage 3 that you should |
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be using, for live-cd creators and the masochists amongst us. |
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True masochists though do a LinuxFromScratch install. It's a good |
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learning experience, but just that - do it once, see how it's done and |
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forevermore thereafter do it the easy way (stage 3). |
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> Will I get a root-prompt after the fist steps of installation? |
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No, you get a login prompt where you log in as root |
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> The controverse discussions in the web are not really satisfying... |
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It's not 100% apparent how the install works from reading the handbook, |
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you have to do it to see how it works. Do note that all distro installer |
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work in this general way, Gentoo just lets you see more of the process. |
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In summary: |
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You need a running OS to install an OS. You get this anywhere you choose |
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but the easiest is to boot from a removeable media (CD, USB, etc). In |
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this environment you will partition your disks, mkfs the volumes, mount |
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them under /mnt and do other things to set up the system. Then you |
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unpack a stage3 and the portage tree onto these partitions and chroot |
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there. You have to unpack the tarballs then chroot otherwise you will |
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try chroot into an empty directory structure - ain't gonna work. |
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A stage 3 gives you a basic working environment with a toolchain and |
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some useful software. And you can configure and build a kernel in it. |
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That is the bulk of this part, so after some various bits of |
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housekeeping and setting up grub, you reboot. |
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With luck, the thing you just installed will boot and give you a prompt. |
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at this point your only user with a shell is root, so you start doing |
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basic sysadmin actions like defining users, setting all your default |
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config options, updating the entire system to latest versions (the |
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stages usually lag behind) and installing every other package you want. |
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You also set up networking as hopefully you built the proper network |
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drivers when you built the kernel earlier. If not, no big deal, just |
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make menuconfg and build the kernel again. The stages already contain |
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all the software you need to get wired and wireless going, so as long as |
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you have the proper drivers built and loaded you can enable the network. |
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It's not especially pretty but it works like a bomb and you can make it |
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pretty later if you wish. |
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Every distro installer out there follows these same basic principles |
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(order varies widely), Gentoo just lets you see what's really going on. |
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Follow the handbook, you'll do fine. Ignore dumb interwebz posts saying |
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how hard it is, those *always* come from people a) without patience or |
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b) who can't read and didn't do what the fine handbook saysto do. |
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Thousands of folk have done these installs, by far the majority succeed |
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first try. Statistically, you are unlikely to be that one in a thousand |
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who fails :-) |
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> Greets |
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> Gee |
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