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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems
Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 10:51:25
Message-Id: 3349320.Vv5J0h2UtC@andromeda
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems by "Stefan G. Weichinger"
1 On Sunday, May 04, 2014 11:15:22 AM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
2 > Do I have to change things because it's better that way, is it worth the
3 > effort ... ? Should I go away from RAID because LVM could stripe/mirror
4 > by itself? Should I go away from LVM because it's kinda old technology?
5 > ... all these things to consider.
6
7 I wouldn't use the stripe/mirror support in LVM as I don't think it is used
8 often and I feel that functionality doesn't belong in LVM.
9 If you want to move it all into a single layer, I would suggest ZFS instead.
10
11 > And then you get into issues with block sizes and stuff, where I always
12 > wonder why *I* have to type all these parameters ... why doesn't modern
13 > software just come with this knowledge inside?
14 >
15 > .... you know
16 >
17 > *sigh* ;-)
18
19 I agree, and I feel that has actually improved over time with modern tools
20 defaulting to 4k sectors.
21
22 > >> I am not so far to skip the initramfs -> I don't *know* that, I
23 > >> just tested removing the line from grub2 and it failed finding the
24 > >> root-fs.
25 > >
26 > > I've never had an initramfs, seeing no need in my case to keep /usr
27 > > on its own partition.
28 >
29 > I don't have that either ...
30
31 Then it should work, provided you have all the required drivers inside your
32 kernel and not as modules.
33 I also believe an initramfs is needed when using LABELs for the root-fs.
34
35 > >> For booting from a plain partition on an SSD I think I shouldn't
36 > >> need an initramfs? Does it have to do with MBR/GPT as well (the SSD
37 > >> is still/again MBR, as UEFI booting broke badly for me back then)
38 > >> ?
39 > >
40 > > As far as I know, the only thing that /requires/ an initramfs is
41 > > having a separate /usr. And I can't help you with GPT or UEFI -
42 > > sorry.
43 >
44 > As mentioned: I don't know if it has any benefits in my case.
45 >
46 > My desktop once was set up to boot gentoo via UEFI (Grub2), worked OK,
47 > then something happened and I spent hours to fix it, then went back to
48 > BIOS/MBR. I just thought I could set that up now that I clean through my
49 > disks and partitioning.
50 >
51 > One of my thinkpads boots via UEFI, that was rather straight to set up
52 > and works fine.
53
54 At the moment, I don't see, from a simple user perspective, any real difference
55 between booting using UEFI and BIOS/MBR.
56
57 --
58 Joost

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