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On Mittwoch 17 Februar 2010, Mick wrote: |
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> On Sunday 14 February 2010 12:40:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> > On Sunday 14 February 2010 13:02:48 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> > > > I highly recommend drivers to gain the skill of driving a vehicle |
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> > > > crash-style without a clutch. Comes in useful sometimes. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > :-) |
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> > > |
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> > > the point was not stick but unsyncronized ;) |
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> > I know. I just felt like tossing sounding in that sounded awfully clever |
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> > |
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> > :-) |
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> I also like manual gearboxes and for some years I was driving an old Series |
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> IIA Land Rover which had straight cut gears on first and second and it |
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> whined when driven at any speed. If you didn't double declutch to go from |
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> 2nd to 1st and occasionally from 3rd to 2nd you would eventually end up |
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> with a box-full of gears and no forward drive! |
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> I also happen to own a couple of old PCs which I try to keep lean and I |
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> don't mind the odd double declutching to change gears. Now, I understand |
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> the development philosophy of KDE4 since this was very well explained, but |
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> that does not stop me wishing that the developers were a bit more modular |
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> in their approach. This is because I would like to use a few KDE apps, |
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> but do not want to have to download and install a load of ever increasing |
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> dependencies. I am after a pick 'n mix from the sweet shop, rather than |
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> being 'forced' to have one of each. |
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> However, the point has been well made by many. KDE4 is not KDE3.x and with |
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> KDE4 you get the full enchilada because that's what the developers have |
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> produced. Since I do not have the ability (or time) to fork KDE4 into my |
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> own flavour I will very much have to make do and be grateful with what |
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> developers care to offer. As I progressively upgrade my hardware all this |
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> aforementioned 'bloat' will no doubt be less of a concern, but as things |
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> are maturing in the Linux land my old laptop has been getting slower and |
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> slower over the years when running X. I can blame this on Xorg, but the |
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> applications themselves are getting <aheam> heavier somewhat too. |
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> I wonder if there is enough of a user requirement here for some of us to |
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> knock up a few wiki pages of how to build a slimmer gentoo, choices of |
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> lightweight WMs, desktop apps of choice, etc. |
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you want dependency nightmare? |
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openoffice depends on libwpd |
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libwpd depends on libgsf |
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libgsf pulls gconf in. |
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I don't need wordperfect, I don't want gnome. No way to get rid of that crap. |
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Even basic libs are pulling in tons of gnome crap today. Why? KDE does not |
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infest low level stuff. If you don't want KDE stuff, you don't have to install |
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it. But thanks to some §§$$%&§$@& even low level libs and apps pull in that |
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shit today. |
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If freedesktop wouldn't be that sick joke it is, such behaviour wouldn't be. |