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From: Marc Joliet <marcec@×××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: planned btrfs conversion: questions
Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 23:31:05
Message-Id: 20140507013052.196afa5e@marcec
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: planned btrfs conversion: questions by James
1 (FYI: your off-list forward of this email arrived at about the same time as
2 this one (at about 22:20 CET), strangely enough.)
3
4 Am Tue, 6 May 2014 18:13:07 +0000 (UTC)
5 schrieb James <wireless@×××××××××××.com>:
6
7 > Marc Joliet <marcec <at> gmx.de> writes:
8 >
9 >
10 > > I've become increasingly motivated to convert to btrfs. From what
11 > > I've seen, it has become increasingly stable; enough so that it is
12 > > apparently supposed to > become the default FS on OpenSuse in 13.2.
13 >
14 > > I am motivated.
15 > > Greetings and thanks in advance for any help given
16 >
17 >
18 > Good news Marc,
19 >
20 > Last December I was on the BTRFS train. The docs team was totally
21 > in agreement with my (your ?) enthusiasmn for all things BTRFS; including
22 > but not limited to the development of documentation of how to install, from
23 > scratch, a complete Gentoo system, centric around BTRFS. The goal was for a
24 > group to develop documentation on the the gentoo wiki for this adventure.
25
26 That would be neat :) . I found it really annoying having to piece lots of the
27 details together myself. I'm kind of in the middle of a Masters thesis here...
28
29 Although I admit this sort of activity satisfies my inner Linux geek ;-)
30 (there's a reason I like Gentoo, after all). And it will hopefully be satiated
31 for a while now after setting up automated backups, migrating / to an SSD along
32 with switching to grub2 (which I already use on my borrowed work/uni laptop) in
33 the process, *and* migrating an mdraid + LVM setup to btrfs -- all within about
34 one week :) .
35
36 > Unfortunately, as a single parent, entrepreneur, and handyman living in a
37 > fixer_upper, my free time is rather scant these months of 2014.....
38 > After some seriously needed projects are closed out, I'll have much
39 > more time; hopefully in some weeks rather than months. My goals was to
40 > clearly delineate possible explicit installation syntax for the smoother
41 > integration (mastery?) of grub2, (u)EFI and BTRFS into a new gentoo
42 > installation.
43 >
44 >
45 > So if you don't mind, I'd like to parse out good ideas (from your efforts)
46 > and start this doc on the Gentoo wiki, based in part on your conversion
47 > adventures. I would not even be upset, if some other, younger,
48 > sharper mind wanted to develop a gentoo-wiki doc, based on your adventures.
49 > Also, I'm hoping others are keenly inspired to contribute to your efforts
50 > and some experimental installation docs on the gentoo wiki. This is the
51 > gentoo community's chance to influence future gentoo installation docs, in
52 > a non threatening manor.
53 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
54
55 This one looks pretty non-threatening to me ;-) :
56
57 https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9usBSoPnUWo/TaMmrclJngI/AAAAAAAAAD4/8Xqx67g6U34/s1600/DSC06646.JPG
58
59 > BTRFS is on the fast track in many linux distros,
60 > as well as cloud/super computers architecture and embedded 64bit arches
61 > as the main file system of choice.
62
63 That sounds perfectly fine to me (the parsing out good ideas from this thread,
64 I mean, but btrfs being on the fast track is also good :) ).
65
66 > I've been espousing (as have many others) for a long time on the
67 > convergences of embedded linux and full_bloat linix for some time. Here is
68 > one gentoo_distro where the author experiments with many of the issues
69 > related to convergence. There is even some suggestions on using BTRFS on
70 > gentoo found here. [1]
71 [...]
72 > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hardened_uClibc/Lilblue
73
74 That looks interesting, albeit outside my (current) realm of interest. I can
75 imagine playing with that sort of thing in the future (1+ years), though.
76
77 Greetings,
78 --
79 Marc Joliet
80 --
81 "People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
82 don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup

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